ABS anti lock braking system...

[stack_it]

I'm aware of the roll restrictor problems. Most times that can be fixed by removing the rocks and dirt that build up behind them. Either way, the reason I put it that way was it sounded to me like you were talking bad about his car. He already owns it. He needed advise on repairing it.

I can see how it was read that way. I typed it in a hurry and actually forgot that I posted in this thread. The cars can be really good cars.

[TITANIUM]

I guess going to a trade school paid off at some point...

Anyways, fords are notorious for certain types of electrical problems.

Starting in 1994, I believe, every car manufacturer went to the OBD2 scanning systems for the ECM systems.

For about $150, you can buy a scanner, and diagnose it your self.

The ABS system in fords, aren't that bad.(I've seen worse ones).

There are different ways that the ecu reads the different braking systems in the car.

Usually, the electric sensors get fried from the heat, and need to be replaced.

BUT, ya, there is always that "BUT" in there, it could be the computer itself that runs the abs system.

My advice, spend the $150 bucks on a scanner from Summit or Jegs, or whoever, and scan it yourself.

It will tell you what it is, and take it from there.

Don't just clear the code out, because your buddy says it's a bum code.

Get the car checked out by a mechanic you trust.

Try to stay away from the dealerships.

They are for warranties and last resorts.

Best

T

[CBGB]

I guess going to a trade school paid off at some point...

Anyways, fords are notorious for certain types of electrical problems.

Starting in 1994, I believe, every car manufacturer went to the OBD2 scanning systems for the ECM systems.

For about $150, you can buy a scanner, and diagnose it your self.

The ABS system in fords, aren't that bad.(I've seen worse ones).

There are different ways that the ecu reads the different braking systems in the car.

Usually, the electric sensors get fried from the heat, and need to be replaced.

BUT, ya, there is always that "BUT" in there, it could be the computer itself that runs the abs system.

My advice, spend the $150 bucks on a scanner from Summit or Jegs, or whoever, and scan it yourself.

It will tell you what it is, and take it from there.

Don't just clear the code out, because your buddy says it's a bum code.

Get the car checked out by a mechanic you trust.

Try to stay away from the dealerships.

They are for warranties and last resorts.

Best

T

I dont know where to start. I like/ respect you. Maybe I should leave this alone.

[CBGB]

I can't leave this alone

I guess going to a trade school paid off at some point...

Anyways, fords are notorious for certain types of electrical problems.
NoI believe thats Jaguar you're thinking of
Starting in 1994, I believe, every car manufacturer went to the OBD2 scanning systems for the ECM systems.
1995
For about $150, you can buy a scanner, and diagnose it your self.
Scanners give system info. Not the component or cause. Replacing parts by codes alone gets expensive real fast
The ABS system in fords, aren't that bad.(I've seen worse ones).
Same basic design as 99% of the vehicles on the road. Hall effect sensors and electronically controlled hydraulics
There are different ways that the ecu reads the different braking systems in the car.

Usually, the electric sensors get fried from the heat, and need to be replaced.
Maybe....but more often than not vibration distorts the internal windings
BUT, ya, there is always that "BUT" in there, it could be the computer itself that runs the abs system.

My advice, spend the $150 bucks on a scanner from Summit or Jegs, or whoever, and scan it yourself.

It will tell you what it is, and take it from there.
No
Don't just clear the code out, because your buddy says it's a bum code.

Get the car checked out by a mechanic you trust.
Certainly
Try to stay away from the dealerships.

They are for warranties and last resorts.
I'm offended. NOBODY knows your car better.
Best

T

[RuhlFreak55]

I can't leave this alone

ummm dealers are pretty much retarded.....two instances i can recall....our Excursion sat over there for like 2 months because...get this....they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it....ended up just needing batteries essentially.
and 2.....the morons shattered the back window of my bronco ****ing around trying to fix my tailgate.....

[CBGB]

ummm dealers are pretty much retarded.....two instances i can recall....our Excursion sat over there for like 2 months because...get this....they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it....ended up just needing batteries essentially.
and 2.....the morons shattered the back window of my bronco ****ing around trying to fix my tailgate.....

I dont know how Lexus runs things. Two grand for a key....We charge $76 to cut and program a new key. If you already have two and we dont have to access your passive anti theft system its $25.

I have been employed by Ford for 12 years now and I will tell you without a doubt. We know our shit. There is nobody and I mean nobody that knows your car better. I take a lot of pride in what I do. You may have had a run in with a bad dealer, but in no way reflects us as a whole. I'm a Senior Master Tech. I'm not talking about ASE's here. I'm talking 8 years of school to get where I am. Go to Joe Blows garage and see who they employ. And our labor rate is within $5 of anybody else in town.

BTW the Focus we're talking about has no less than 5 different control modules. As a base model.

[stack_it]

I can cut and program a ford key for the $12 the blanks cost us and I can do a Lexus key for just slightly more. Thing is my master key was stolen and in order to program a new you have to have the master. The computer cannot be reprogrammed on my model. Therefore I had to buy 2 keys ($123 each) and pay 1 hours labor ($130) in order for Lexus to agree to replace the ecu for free. I am not bashing ford or there technicians. I'm just saying that for some repairs it's not logical or cost effective to go to a dealer. I don't have any problems with ford at all. If I was to buy an American car I would probably go with an f series. They seem to be the best built trucks. My dream truck is actually a diesel excursion lifted on 35's....


Ruhlfreak: I have atleast 3 cheap scanners laying around here at work and all they will read is engine light codes. Excuse me for not personally trying every scanner on the market. My opinions were based off personal experiences.

I dont know how Lexus runs things. Two grand for a key....We charge $76 to cut and program a new key. If you already have two and we dont have to access your passive anti theft system its $25.

I have been employed by Ford for 12 years now and I will tell you without a doubt. We know our shit. There is nobody and I mean nobody that knows your car better. I take a lot of pride in what I do. You may have had a run in with a bad dealer, but in no way reflects us as a whole. I'm a Senior Master Tech. I'm not talking about ASE's here. I'm talking 8 years of school to get where I am. Go to Joe Blows garage and see who they employ. And our labor rate is within $5 of anybody else in town.

BTW the Focus we're talking about has no less than 5 different control modules. As a base model.

[RuhlFreak55]

I dont know how Lexus runs things. Two grand for a key....We charge $76 to cut and program a new key. If you already have two and we dont have to access your passive anti theft system its $25.

I have been employed by Ford for 12 years now and I will tell you without a doubt. We know our shit. There is nobody and I mean nobody that knows your car better. I take a lot of pride in what I do. You may have had a run in with a bad dealer, but in no way reflects us as a whole. I'm a Senior Master Tech. I'm not talking about ASE's here. I'm talking 8 years of school to get where I am. Go to Joe Blows garage and see who they employ. And our labor rate is within $5 of anybody else in town.

BTW the Focus we're talking about has no less than 5 different control modules. As a base model.

remind me never to buy a new car......**** that complexity

[CBGB]

I can see how it was read that way. I typed it in a hurry and actually forgot that I posted in this thread. The cars can be really good cars.

Looks like he forgot about it too...lol