Israel or Palestine?

[crazy_rocks]

But in those other countries where many jews fled for Palestine, like Syria and Iran, the jews that are still there have the same rights as everyone else and they are a very small percentage of the population, and they were to begin with..

After all this ethnic cleansing in Israel and Palestine, look at the cia world factbook and Palestinians are about 50% of the population in British mandate Palestine right now+ the golan heights, it doesn't mater what happened in other places in that past..

The situation now is a grouse oppresive aphartied in which 'israel' is a jewish supramact system .. look at the link i posted listing in just a few weeks the amount of violent settler attacks against Palestinians, not to mention what israels racist government does to them..that country is a kukluxklan state on steroids-its the worst racist oppresion in the world..

your arguments are like saying "well in Zimbabwe they keep attacking those white farmers so we're gonna start attacking blacks here in America, because of zimbabwe"


here it is again..this is what happens to the Palestinians NOW, everyday, this is jst a few of the injustices, it's really unbelievable that the american media almost never reports this stuff or what daily palestinian life is like
http://www.dcmessageboards.com/index...51&#entry34551

hell yeah i love rolling up my sleeves and getting into it.

everyone who lives in israel has rights regardless of race.

once again the israelis have not been committing ethnic cleansing against anyone. they are fighting because they both believe the land belongs
to them.

the israeli government is not racist. they allow people of every race to live in israel. didnt you know that. it is nothing like the kkk like you stated.

the comparison you made that -i supposedly would have made- about zimbabwe is not comparable to what i have said about israel and palestine at all. you see the israelis and the palestinians are neighbors. the both have a claim of the same land and they fight because of it. i would not say blacks in america should be attacked because blacks in africa are attacking white farmers. the relation of the situation would be non existent in that case therefore i would not come to that conclusion. were you able to soak that up?

you can post all the links you want of articles on mistreatment. unfortunately people do those kinds of things regardless of what side of the debate they are on. there are americans who have committed war crimes against the germans in ww2. does that mean we shouldnt have been involved? not that the information in the article you provided was a war crime but you get what im saying...maybe. it does not change the fact that israel has the right to exist as it has in the past. the land claim is legit. palestine is a variation of a roman word used by the romans when they denied the jews their home. suddenly there was a thing called palestinians, and yes i know the jews and arabs were fighting before this event took place. you need to challenge me on the issues of the foundation. so far you have not and will not. your knowledge on the subject matter is mediocre at best.

i said prove me wrong. i was expecting some sort of informational challenge not a simple debate of common sense, ethics, and guess who committed a crime against who which in reality still does not change the facts of the situation. where do they make them like you?

zionism forever.

your turn.

[eliteforce]

It's much more like kukluxklan tactics on steroids then it is american treatment of germans, americans didn't occupy germany and then go around burning their firelds and trashing their houses for the next 30 years

your comparing the jewish settler violence against palestinians to american occupation of germany post wwii

"you need to challenge me on the issues of the foundation. so far you have not and will not."

it doesn't matter exactly when it was called Palestine-that was only 2000 years ago, the 5 million Palestinians there call it Palestine and that is their nationality-thats all that matters, and it was called Palestine for the next 2000 up until 1948 years..look at any map or newspaper from before 1948 and it refers to the levant as Palestine, thats the foundation, if the Palestinians wnat to call themselves Cannans, then theres the issue of the Canaans..the israelis are israelis because they call themselves israeli, the 2 nationalities are there, there isn't any "foundation" issue.

also it was the Byzantines and Crusaders that expelled Jews and Muslims from Palestine (and the crusaders murdered many people in a series of massacres against every man woman and child in a given area that they were attacking-including the total extermination of Jerusalem when the conquered it-every muslim and jewish person was killed) and those who were expelled took refuge in Arab territory until the Arabs conquered and reconquered Palestine, in both cases Jews were given permission to return as soon as palestine was liberated, some decided to stay where they were because it took like 100 years to conquer and reconquer, thats why you had syrian and iraqi jews etc. it wasn't the Arabs that thru them out, and Arabs and middle eastern jews never had serious problems with each other until the zionists arrived
There were already Palestinian Jews there when the zionists started to arrive from europe.. so why should Arabs pay the price when they were the ones giving jews refuge during western crusader genocide attacks?

you can post all the links you want of articles on mistreatment. unfortunately people do those kinds of things regardless of what side of the debate they are on. there are americans who have committed war crimes against the germans in ww2. does that mean we shouldnt have been involved? not that the information in the article you provided was a war crime but you get what im saying...maybe. it does not change the fact that israel has the right to exist as it has in the past. the land claim is legit. palestine is a variation of a roman word used by the romans when they denied the jews their home. suddenly there was a thing called palestinians, and yes i know the jews and arabs were fighting before this event took place. you need to challenge me on the issues of the foundation. so far you have not and will not. your knowledge on the subject matter is mediocre at best.