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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbsub View Post
    so fats elicit a higher thermic effect than fibrous carbs do??? I would love to know which fats.....

    I've been very successful maintaining 6% bf eating carbs PWO, and I will continue to do so....lots of "carb paranoia" 'round here
    I never once said you can't do carbs PWO and maintain a low bodyfat. I said there is no need for it after cardio.

    And veggies are veggies, you can use them however much you want even WITH fats. Im talking about CARBS...with alpha bonds not beta bonds. Completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    I never once said you can't do carbs PWO and maintain a low bodyfat. I said there is no need for it after cardio.

    And veggies are veggies, you can use them however much you want even WITH fats. Im talking about CARBS...with alpha bonds not beta bonds. Completely different.
    Are carbs needed at all PWO Bino? Wouldnt one attain the neccessary insulin increase from BCAA's anyhow, like Leucine supplementation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Are carbs needed at all PWO Bino? Wouldnt one attain the neccessary insulin increase from BCAA's anyhow, like Leucine supplementation?
    you guys got me curious also. I religiously have a pwo shake w/oats UNLESS its cardio only day where I have the shake w/o oats......BTW, Im cutting right now......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Are carbs needed at all PWO Bino? Wouldnt one attain the neccessary insulin increase from BCAA's anyhow, like Leucine supplementation?
    Well the insulin response from BCAA's isnt the same as carbs thats for sure.

    More or less BCAA's are just going to be utilized for ATP production, as they can be converted to glutamine and alanine for use in the krebs cycle.

    They of course increase protein synthesis...but their main function in my eyes around your workouts is to spare glycogen and to reduce fatigue by competing for the same protein receptor carriers are tryptophan, so less tryptophan passes the blood brain barrier for conversion to serotonin.

    But I have had success with going on no carbs PWO. I only do it while dieting mind you. I dont EVER go crazy on carbs even when bulking as I still utilize EFA's as a large part of my nutrition but I do feel carbs are important PWO for increasing protein synthesis and preventing peptide hydrolysis.

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