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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    I might get yelled at for this... but I PERSONALLY SEE NOTHING WRONG.. especially at your age, and the fact it technically isn't your first cycle.. apparently you used some orals before?? Well IMO, dude use the MAST E .. but use it right.. 400mgs EW Minimum.. 500 is good, hit that with an equal dose of TEST. Seriously. 12 weeks on that dose, will yield excellent results if you know how to properly eat. AAS aren't a miracle cure, everything else has to be up to par for them to work properly... so get your diet worked out first and go for it bro.. MASTERONE is a very very MILD compound, with not many sides at all...

    and to the person suggesting 250-300mgs of Test per week.. what are you nuts?? At his age, his Natty test should long since been declining.. 500 per week minimum... at the dose you recommended that's BARELY past TRT dosing... he's looking to CYCLE.. not REPLACE what should naturally be there.. YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ALL VARIABLES when giving advice.. for someone who is 25 and doing their first cycle.. yah i could see 300mgs EW being a so-so starting point.. but not for someone a decade older.

    OP.. Go for it bro, 500 of Test E , 400-500 of MAST E .. Two Injects per week.. every 3.5 days respectively... start PCT 2 weeks after last shot.. NOLVA/CLOMID therapy should work fine.. in the 2 weeks you are waiting to start your PCT in .. maybe throw in some HCG at 250iu's daily to kickstart them testes if you so desire.. or better yet .. run the HCG the whole cycle length at 500iu's twice per week on the same days as your injections...

    That's MY OPINION.. and I am sticking to it.
    No disrespect here bro, but I think your logic is reversed. A younger male with higher levels of natural testosterone would require MORE test to surpass that of which he's producing, but an older man with lower levels wouldn't need as much to see solid gains.

    There's no sense in using more than what you need IMHO. All that does is aid in increasing sides.

    To the OP: Run 300mg weekly and bump your Masteron to 500-600mg. You'll be glad you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    No disrespect here bro, but I think your logic is reversed. A younger male with higher levels of natural testosterone would require MORE test to surpass that of which he's producing, but an older man with lower levels wouldn't need as much to see solid gains.

    There's no sense in using more than what you need IMHO. All that does is aid in increasing sides.

    To the OP: Run 300mg weekly and bump your Masteron to 500-600mg. You'll be glad you did.
    Lean, that seems to be a logical perspective as well. There seems to be a definite split in thinking between the "More is Better" and the "Conservative" users.
    Lean, what are your stats and why did you decide to run your test lower? What was your reason for running Masteron, just cutting? They seem to be synergestic as the Masteron frees up bound test and has anti-e properties thus the leaning and vascularity effects. I am bald(naturally-thanks mom) and never had Gyno problems so those issues are not of concern.
    If I start at 300, how long do I wait before I say, "Its not working" and double the dose?
    When did you feel it working?
    Thank you for your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya View Post
    Lean, that seems to be a logical perspective as well. There seems to be a definite split in thinking between the "More is Better" and the "Conservative" users.
    Lean, what are your stats and why did you decide to run your test lower? What was your reason for running Masteron, just cutting? They seem to be synergestic as the Masteron frees up bound test and has anti-e properties thus the leaning and vascularity effects. I am bald(naturally-thanks mom) and never had Gyno problems so those issues are not of concern.
    If I start at 300, how long do I wait before I say, "Its not working" and double the dose?
    When did you feel it working?
    Thank you for your input.
    Personally, I've learned that I'm sensative to estrogenic sides so I'm glad I chose a lower dosage.

    Anyone in the game will tell you that these compounds only amplify your diet and training. I'm great at both and don't need a lot of gear to surpass my goals. Others may have different goals or "Up the dose" to try to bridge a gap in their routines/techniques.

    Masteron was a great addition to Test just as Proviron. Test kicked in for me during my 4th week, but some don't see it until week 6 or 8.

    I'd start at 300mg and if you're giving it your all and still not seeing what you want, I'd bump up to 400mg during week 8 IMHO.

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