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    only thing i'm worried about is the source. Kinda dry this way right now and worried about these online sites :/. i thought maybe even just doing a PH run and if happy with that maybe not do the dbol test e for a while. Obviously with either i would run milk thistle and Novadex XT for the PCT. Umm im just trying to find a good PH right now. It seems a lot liked Superdrol but thats off the market?? idk Sarms S4 seems to sketchy with the night visions i'm wondering what you all would recommend for a PH stack for mass gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbitjones View Post
    only thing i'm worried about is the source. Kinda dry this way right now and worried about these online sites :/. i thought maybe even just doing a PH run and if happy with that maybe not do the dbol test e for a while. Obviously with either i would run milk thistle and Novadex XT for the PCT. Umm im just trying to find a good PH right now. It seems a lot liked Superdrol but thats off the market?? idk Sarms S4 seems to sketchy with the night visions i'm wondering what you all would recommend for a PH stack for mass gain.

    The best PH for mass gains is M-Drol mg for mg......If you can get your hands on some Spawn that is a great DS.......The clone for Spawn is Jacked so you may want to look that up if you can't find any Spawn......As for running S4 I plan on doing a DS plus S4 in the near future. I am going to keep a log and let everyone know how it goes.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power View Post
    The best PH for mass gains is M-Drol mg for mg......If you can get your hands on some Spawn that is a great DS.......The clone for Spawn is Jacked so you may want to look that up if you can't find any Spawn......As for running S4 I plan on doing a DS plus S4 in the near future. I am going to keep a log and let everyone know how it goes.......
    Wait a second, I thought Jack3d was just a pre-workout supp. Its actually a prohormone???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbran23 View Post
    Wait a second, I thought Jack3d was just a pre-workout supp. Its actually a prohormone???
    Wrong one! Its out there.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbitjones View Post
    only thing i'm worried about is the source. Kinda dry this way right now and worried about these online sites :/. i thought maybe even just doing a PH run and if happy with that maybe not do the dbol test e for a while. Obviously with either i would run milk thistle and Novadex XT for the PCT. Umm im just trying to find a good PH right now. It seems a lot liked Superdrol but thats off the market?? idk Sarms S4 seems to sketchy with the night visions i'm wondering what you all would recommend for a PH stack for mass gain.
    A PH/DS shuts you down just like the real stuff. Novadex XT will do absolutely nothing for your PCT. You need an actual SERM (Nolva, Clomid, Torm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMonkey View Post
    A PH/DS shuts you down just like the real stuff. Novadex XT will do absolutely nothing for your PCT. You need an actual SERM (Nolva, Clomid, Torm).

    Exactly... Spawn shut me down and a serm brought me right back very quickly. OP, save your money and start prepping yourself for the gear cycle. Use the time to drop additional bf, and hit the weights harder. Both hurt your hpta, so be wise and wait for aas

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuntry1984 View Post
    Exactly... Spawn shut me down and a serm brought me right back very quickly. OP, save your money and start prepping yourself for the gear cycle. Use the time to drop additional bf, and hit the weights harder. Both hurt your hpta, so be wise and wait for aas
    Brother I am in Okinawa and I have no sources!!! I wish to hell that I did!!! I would run a 16 week cycle that looks like this:

    Week 1-12: 1000mg a week Test E
    Week 1-4: 50mg of D-Bol
    Week 13-16: 250mg of Tren EOD

    I would get ****ing huge!!!!!!! I just wish I had a source..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power View Post
    Brother I am in Okinawa and I have no sources!!! I wish to hell that I did!!! I would run a 16 week cycle that looks like this:

    Week 1-12: 1000mg a week Test E
    Week 1-4: 50mg of D-Bol
    Week 13-16: 250mg of Tren EOD


    I would get ****ing huge!!!!!!! I just wish I had a source..........
    This is a horrilbe cycle especially for his first go around. 4 weeks of tren will get you no where, that high of consentration for both test E and tren is terrible.
    On week 12 after your last injection of Test E the test will be out of your system and then you want to add tren? That will shut you down big time!
    If this is going to be your first cycle go to the anwers & questions steroid side.
    DO NOT DO THIS CYCLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    This is a horrilbe cycle especially for his first go around. 4 weeks of tren will get you no where, that high of consentration for both test E and tren is terrible.
    On week 12 after your last injection of Test E the test will be out of your system and then you want to add tren? That will shut you down big time!
    If this is going to be your first cycle go to the anwers & questions steroid side.
    DO NOT DO THIS CYCLE.
    How about if he drops the test to 500mg, dbol to 40mg, and excludes Tren? I wanted to do 750mg for my first cycle, but many vets here suggested that 500mg would be better for a first cycle, so that is what I decided on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuntry1984 View Post
    How about if he drops the test to 500mg, dbol to 40mg, and excludes Tren? I wanted to do 750mg for my first cycle, but many vets here suggested that 500mg would be better for a first cycle, so that is what I decided on.
    That would be a hundred times better. I would say see how 500mg pw works then you can add a different compound for your next cycle. I have stayed away from Test E and been using prop, I love short esters, long ones tend to bloat me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    This is a horrilbe cycle especially for his first go around. 4 weeks of tren will get you no where, that high of consentration for both test E and tren is terrible.
    On week 12 after your last injection of Test E the test will be out of your system and then you want to add tren? That will shut you down big time!
    If this is going to be your first cycle go to the anwers & questions steroid side.
    DO NOT DO THIS CYCLE.

    This was just a if I could run a cycle that is what I would use....I don't plan on running this cycle...... So 1000mg of Test E is a bad call? LOL!!!! And I can't get any real shit anyway......But thanks for clearing this up!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    This is a horrilbe cycle especially for his first go around. 4 weeks of tren will get you no where, that high of consentration for both test E and tren is terrible.
    On week 12 after your last injection of Test E the test will be out of your system and then you want to add tren? That will shut you down big time!
    If this is going to be your first cycle go to the anwers & questions steroid side.
    DO NOT DO THIS CYCLE.
    So when would you run the Tren and for how long at what dosage? Can you run D-Bol for longer than 4 weeks? What if I run the following?

    Test E: 1-13 Weeks 750mg a week??
    Anadrol: 1-4 Weeks 50mg every day??
    Tren: 8-13 Weeks 75mg a day???

    Is this a better cycle? I thought it would be great to run Tren because it is used for cutting? Please fill me in....Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power View Post
    So when would you run the Tren and for how long at what dosage? Can you run D-Bol for longer than 4 weeks? What if I run the following?

    Test E: 1-13 Weeks 750mg a week??
    Anadrol: 1-4 Weeks 50mg every day??
    Tren: 8-13 Weeks 75mg a day???

    Is this a better cycle? I thought it would be great to run Tren because it is used for cutting? Please fill me in....Thanks.
    Okinawa, I have seen your pics and you have a great built (very thick!!!). I dont want to still this thread so I will PM you later today on a couple of recommendations, also let me know you previous cycles.

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