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    Thanks guys. No, this is not my first time. I was "on" for about a year before this, although most of the time I was just coasting. I stopped seeing gains after about 4 months, but instead of being smart, I got scared of PCT and kept going. I never ran HCG during the cycle. Finally knew I had to put things back to normal. Post-Cycle was hell. I had to do it twice to get things working again. Stupid! I've done a lot of studying since then and want to have my 'ducks in a row' before starting this one. Like a lot of people here, I deserve to be flamed.
    I thought I would work some prop. into the cycle just to help shorten the length of time I was 'on'. But If you think that's a bad idea, I'll drop it. Can you tell i'm paranoid about the pct sides? lol. As for the Eq., I got a bottle because the profile says it helps with appetite. That's always been a problem for me, and I know that my diet will make or break this cycle.
    The pinning every other day is so I can get about 400mg. of Eq., and 600mg. of test a week. Does that sound right to you? I can't pin much more than 1cc at a time, it hurts like hell and I have a hard time with my workouts.
    Once again, thanks to all for your time and concern. I'm listening!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot stuff View Post
    Thanks guys. No, this is not my first time. I was "on" for about a year before this, although most of the time I was just coasting. I stopped seeing gains after about 4 months, but instead of being smart, I got scared of PCT and kept going. I never ran HCG during the cycle. Finally knew I had to put things back to normal. Post-Cycle was hell. I had to do it twice to get things working again. Stupid! I've done a lot of studying since then and want to have my 'ducks in a row' before starting this one. Like a lot of people here, I deserve to be flamed.
    I thought I would work some prop. into the cycle just to help shorten the length of time I was 'on'. But If you think that's a bad idea, I'll drop it. Can you tell i'm paranoid about the pct sides? lol. As for the Eq., I got a bottle because the profile says it helps with appetite. That's always been a problem for me, and I know that my diet will make or break this cycle.
    The pinning every other day is so I can get about 400mg. of Eq., and 600mg. of test a week. Does that sound right to you? I can't pin much more than 1cc at a time, it hurts like hell and I have a hard time with my workouts.
    Once again, thanks to all for your time and concern. I'm listening!!!!
    Test prop is my favorite test. It sounds like the one you need to use if you cannot pin more than 1cc at a time.
    I cannot understand why the changeing of esters in mid cycle unless you are among the top pro's in the NFBB.
    It really hurts your body and if not done right you will not make gains for a time period.
    Since you have these things on hand just use what you have.

    Since you have a hard time with pct I suggest you not use the sust. Sust is harder to deal with in pct.
    pinning gets old after a while so an eight week cycle will probably be best for this. I would suggest for what you have on hand test prop EOD as much as you can tolerate. HCG every four of five days. adex if needed for bloat but using prop you most likely will not need it. and do normal pct at the end of the cycle. YOu should gain 10lbs to reach your goal.That is a simple and easy thing with less side efects. and pct will be easier this time around.

    you mentioned something in an earlier post about a year long cycle and pct......... WHEW NO WONDER !!!! That sounds like a headache I do not even want to get into right now

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    Kaju is right on the mark.

    I am curious , you mentioned that you have a problem with shooting more than 1cc.
    How are you pinning yourself?
    is the problem with the gear you are using or the needle?

    yea, a 1 year cycle , I have never gone past 12 weeks and that seems long to me!

    Good luck!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigabitbucket View Post
    Kaju is right on the mark.

    I am curious , you mentioned that you have a problem with shooting more than 1cc.
    How are you pinning yourself?
    is the problem with the gear you are using or the needle?

    yea, a 1 year cycle , I have never gone past 12 weeks and that seems long to me!

    Good luck!!!!
    Shouldes and glutes. I use a 25ga. x 1.5''. I can probably go more than 1cc in the glutes. But over time, they get sore. I end up walking like I have a corncob up my a**. HaHa. Like I said, most of the time during the year I was just cruising, but I still think it was stupid and I won't do it again. Post cycle shouldn't be near as bad for me this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaju View Post
    Test prop is my favorite test. It sounds like the one you need to use if you cannot pin more than 1cc at a time.
    I cannot understand why the changeing of esters in mid cycle unless you are among the top pro's in the NFBB.
    It really hurts your body and if not done right you will not make gains for a time period.
    Since you have these things on hand just use what you have.

    Since you have a hard time with pct I suggest you not use the sust. Sust is harder to deal with in pct.
    pinning gets old after a while so an eight week cycle will probably be best for this. I would suggest for what you have on hand test prop EOD as much as you can tolerate. HCG every four of five days. adex if needed for bloat but using prop you most likely will not need it. and do normal pct at the end of the cycle. YOu should gain 10lbs to reach your goal.That is a simple and easy thing with less side efects. and pct will be easier this time around.

    you mentioned something in an earlier post about a year long cycle and pct......... WHEW NO WONDER !!!! That sounds like a headache I do not even want to get into right now
    Wow, i'm sure glad I met up with you. I have enough prop for a full cycle, and that's what i'll do. HCG every 4 to 5 days it is. Thanks for saving me from myself. U DA MAN!

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