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    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    dude, are you ****ing kidding me.
    all my parents taught me is that being gay is alright. my problem with ****ing a dude comes from instinctual desire, period. my natural attraction is towards women. when something so much as resembles a man, it cant register as beig sexually arousing.

    I’m not sure what your argument is. Being gay was 5% of the statement I made, having sex with people vs having sex with inanimate objects is the other 95%. What does your “instinctual desire” tell you about fvckn blow dryers? It should tell you that its not normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    i wasnt raised by ****in nazi's dude, and ive NEVER felt that being gay was wrong. its natural, instinctual attraction, and it as nothing to do with society, influence, or experience. i mean the fact that i like a girl to have long hair, or wear a push up bra?? maybe, but the rest is untampered, innate, intuition.
    So you’re implying I was raised by Nazis, great. (otherwise why say it?)
    Lets see what’s next.



    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    how the **** can you compair having sex with an inanimate obect, with the gender of a human being you arent sexually attracted too. dude, are you out of your ****ing mind?
    Ok grammar seems to be a serious problem for you but I’ll still try my best to understand what you are saying.
    The comparison is VALID because sex is the common denominator. Whether you have sex with a man, toy, tree or wall its actually the most valid comparison a person can make. You’re logic is obviously getting blurred by how emotional you were when you wrote this. Please try to curse less and make sense more.





    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    ! this robotic masterbation sleeve thing, has no face, or soul, or life. all it does is turn on and basically do what weve done with our hands for years, and probably does it better. how in the ****, can you even put that in the same margin as having sex with another man, when you arent homosexual. THAT is unnatural dude. that, is ****in disturbing.

    Wait.. you just said that sleeve thing has “no face, soul or life”, then you mention having sex with a man (who has a face, soul and life) and THEN you say the latter is “unnatural”? Let me reframe that for you.

    YOU SAID, its unnatural to have sex with a man (and disturbing) but its ok to have sex with something that ISN’T even alive? I have one question for you, can I please get some of whatever you are smoking? I’m dead serious do you just babble aimlessly or ever even consider what the hell you just said? You technically just proved yourself wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    i mean think about it.
    Think about what?
    How having sex with an object is natural? I won’t even go to the extreme of calling you insane, I will however go to the extreme of saying you have no analytical thought capabilities whatsoever.


    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post

    sex is a human need and right. and some people just cant get it. there are guys who havent gotten laid in ****in years man. think about guys in jail. so deprived they are ****in RAPING each other dude. u think thats natural? you think thats dignified? going against your natural attraction because you are so ****ing desperate just to feel what you were genetically programed to desire?? how sad and crazy is that man. just like people raping animals. they are so desperate for sex they do it with something that cant give them consent but they can take it with having a little clean piece of conscience left because they didnt rape another human being. that shit, is the furthest thing from natural i can think of.
    I agree, but having sex with animals and raping men isn’t a sign of repressed desire, it’s a sign of NO SELF CONTROL. There are tons of people who don’t get laid that don’t rape animals or men. Its sad and crazy I agree with you on that, but I still say 100% its more natural for a man to rape a man then for a man to rape a wall or blow up doll. And using a population of people who are known for not following social norms (prisoners) to justify breaking social norms is really not a bright idea at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post

    they give every dude in jail one of these, think about how much less rapes there would be. (well, if they are any good, lol)
    You’re implying that rapists rape while they’re on the streets cause they’re not getting laid. Encase you weren’t aware rape has almost nothing to do with sex and almost everything to do with power and control. Anyone who studies rapists for a living or has met one will tell you the same thing. Give them a sex toy and it’ll just become a weapon they use to rape more people.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post

    i mean what is the fundimetal problem here? the simulation? because maybe someday we wont jerk ourselves off anymore? masturbation is about feeding the need man straight up.
    Masturbate to your hearts content. I never said anything about masturbation. My statement was based solely on the idea of sick fvcks getting turned on by OBJECTS, things that are dead, things that have NO REASON for anyone to get turned on in the first place… unless you just happen to be a sick fvck.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post

    the only piece of humanity involved in that is a hormonal itch that needs to be scratched. who gives a F-CK how people do it man.
    **I CARE**, cause to me if you can have sex with an inflatable doll or something that looks like a blow dryer you can ALSO have sex with other things that don’t activate sexual arousal, such as CHILDREN. How is it any different for someone to project a sexual urge onto a tree then it is to project a sexual urge onto a child? Explain that please.
    They are BOTH 2 things that have NOTHING to do with sex, BOTH 2 things that logically should not create lust or desire.
    HOWEVER, people still do experience that desire. And if you are fvcked up enough in the head to fvck a doll or tree or any object that exists, to me you are fvcked up enough to molest a child or animal. If you can’t understand that simple logic its not my job to explain it to you. That shit should be common sense for anyone with half a brain.


    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post

    for real. its no less human, then taking a bus, or using this computer. we dont walk, we drive. we dont speak, we type. thats the direction technology has taken us...and honestly, i think its sucked the life out of way more important shit then this trivial topic.
    this thing does NOT replace love, or relationships, or our humanity. its a battery powered rubber thing that helps a dude rub one out.
    get over it.
    It DOES replace sexual desire. That’s the whole point. The question is WTF is going through someones head where they can get turned on by a MACHINE?

    M-A-C-H-I-N-E.
    Its not logical, it’s the most fvcked up thing you can sit here and try to justify. If you don’t get laid that’s no excuse to hump your tv or a book or your keyboard. If that’s what you do with your life (not saying you specifically) then you are a FREAK plain and simple.
    I do not feel comfortable being around you and I would NEVER leave you alone with my children. You actually believe its ok to fvck something that has 0 association with sex. Men have an association with sex, they have a penis, so if 2 men wanna fvck each other in that regard to me it DOES make sense.
    There is a large human element at play.

    There is no element of logic to explain why the hell some random nutjob would get off sticking their cock in a vacuum or w/e fancy technological creations freaks have invented and made people like you believe are ok to fvck (blow up dolls and what not). Sit here all day trying to justify it I don’t give a fvck. Its EXTREMELY weird, borderline scary, and I think people who do that crap need to see a shrink asap before they start projecting that same urge onto things that CAN feel and CAN be hurt.
    That’s what scares me, and what scares me even more is that it doesn’t scare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    I’m not sure what your argument is. Being gay was 5% of the statement I made, having sex with people vs having sex with inanimate objects is the other 95%. What does your “instinctual desire” tell you about fvckn blow dryers? It should tell you that its not normal.
    (k im gonna keep this short)
    dude, that shpeal about natral desire, was in response to you saying:
    "If I said "you like to have sex with machines", you wouldn't care.
    When I throw in "men", all a sudden you care.
    Well let me tell you something, the ONLY reason you don't care, is because you haven't been brainwashed by your parents to feel the same amount of lowness having sex with a machine then with a man."
    Thats the ONLY reason."

    thats a pretty mind blowing statement. you think the only thing that determines a mans sexual prefference are the ideals(or prejudice) of his parents? ridiculous.





    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    So you’re implying I was raised by Nazis, great. (otherwise why say it?)
    Lets see what’s next.


    nah man, im saying i was raised in an envorinment where i was not told or taught that i should feel shame about what sex i might be attracted too.




    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Ok grammar seems to be a serious problem for you but I’ll still try my best to understand what you are saying.
    The comparison is VALID because sex is the common denominator. Whether you have sex with a man, toy, tree or wall its actually the most valid comparison a person can make. You’re logic is obviously getting blurred by how emotional you were when you wrote this. Please try to curse less and make sense more.


    obviously you dont feel confident about your argument or you wouldnt be taking petty shots like picking apart my grammar? dude im making total sense...and this isint a ****in english paper im typing on the internet, ive got better things to do then proof read this bullshit. if you can read and understand me, which im sure everyone else can...its good enough. take a look at your own jibberish dude, i question what your first language is.
    the problem here, is my entire point sailed far over your head hommes. your saying, that condoning having sex with a battery operated thing, is like saying "hey, ide **** a guy." im telling you why that is f'n ridiculous, and how they are different. and you're questioning the depths of my analytical thought? LOL.
    dude, im not emotional. i curse because im a grown man and im just speaking to you as i would if you were infront of me. sorry bro, ile respect your sensitivity and spair you the asterics when i can. *****. j/k.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Wait.. you just said that sleeve thing has “no face, soul or life”, then you mention having sex with a man (who has a face, soul and life) and THEN you say the latter is “unnatural”? Let me reframe that for you.

    YOU SAID, its unnatural to have sex with a man (and disturbing) but its ok to have sex with something that ISN’T even alive? I have one question for you, can I please get some of whatever you are smoking? I’m dead serious do you just babble aimlessly or ever even consider what the hell you just said? You technically just proved yourself wrong.
    uhrrrm, yeah, that very contrast and conflict is the entire foundation of my point. having sex with a toy is just feeding a natural desire. having sex with a guy (against your preffered orientation) would be probably one of the most difficult things a straight guy could ever go through in his ****in life. the ONLY thing arousing about this 'machine', is it SIMULATES the feeling of your preffered fantasy. having sex with another dude, plays out every straight man on earths worste nightmare(aside from you,apparently)...want an actual consensus to hammer it in your skull? ask ANY ****ING STRAIGHT MAN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD what they would rather do, watch a porn while a machine bobs up and down on thier dick, simulating an experience involving what they sexually desire...or **** another dude. you'll find out how incredibly wrong you are pretty fast.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Think about what?
    How having sex with an object is natural? I won’t even go to the extreme of calling you insane, I will however go to the extreme of saying you have no analytical thought capabilities whatsoever.

    I agree, but having sex with animals and raping men isn’t a sign of repressed desire, it’s a sign of NO SELF CONTROL. There are tons of people who don’t get laid that don’t rape animals or men. Its sad and crazy I agree with you on that, but I still say 100% its more natural for a man to rape a man then for a man to rape a wall or blow up doll. And using a population of people who are known for not following social norms (prisoners) to justify breaking social norms is really not a bright idea at all.
    lol, blow up dolls cant give consent or take it away. pretty hard to rape one hommes.(sorry, symantics..just givin back what youre puttin out) so you think sodomizing a man agaist his will is more natural then rubbin one out with the aid of some batteries.do i think the intention behind masturbation no matter how its done should always be classified as more natural then rape, yeah. need i say more?
    and getting back to analytical capabilities..dude, i mention prison because YOU mentioned ****in guys to meet our unrequited desires so its a(maybe the only) relevant example. whatever demographic prisoners represent has nothing to do with this conversation man. and by that logic, who the **** are you to commentate on socal norms anyway mr. hard time? i dont mean to get personal, but common dude..


    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    You’re implying that rapists rape while they’re on the streets cause they’re not getting laid. Encase you weren’t aware rape has almost nothing to do with sex and almost everything to do with power and control. Anyone who studies rapists for a living or has met one will tell you the same thing. Give them a sex toy and it’ll just become a weapon they use to rape more people.
    im not talking about rapists in general man, goddamn. consider the context of whats being said as it applies to the subect at hand. at what point did i even mention rapists on the streets? im talking situational rape... men put in desperate scenarios...not serial rapists. again, that should have been clear.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    **I CARE**, cause to me if you can have sex with an inflatable doll or something that looks like a blow dryer you can ALSO have sex with other things that don’t activate sexual arousal, such as CHILDREN. How is it any different for someone to project a sexual urge onto a tree then it is to project a sexual urge onto a child? Explain that please.
    They are BOTH 2 things that have NOTHING to do with sex, BOTH 2 things that logically should not create lust or desire.
    HOWEVER, people still do experience that desire. And if you are fvcked up enough in the head to fvck a doll or tree or any object that exists, to me you are fvcked up enough to molest a child or animal. If you can’t understand that simple logic its not my job to explain it to you. That shit should be common sense for anyone with half a brain.
    dear, ****ing, jesus. i don't even have to dispute this too make you look like a jackass. you're doing a perfectly good job on your own dude. seriously man, take a cold shower, and join the real world for a drink because if you cant discern the distincion between using a sex toy,and being a ****ing pedophile, you need a serious evaluation. this is so batshit crazy i dont even know what to say.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    It DOES replace sexual desire. That’s the whole point. The question is WTF is going through someones head where they can get turned on by a MACHINE?
    M-A-C-H-I-N-E.
    Its not logical, it’s the most fvcked up thing you can sit here and try to justify. If you don’t get laid that’s no excuse to hump your tv or a book or your keyboard. If that’s what you do with your life (not saying you specifically) then you are a FREAK plain and simple.
    see this is what you are not understanding. let me make this insultingly clear. mmmmkay? the arousal in this machine thing isint based on its physical stature you dumbass, its just a supplimental feeling to aid a mental fantasy of intimate physical contact with a woman, or man...whatever it is you fantasize about. its not like a guy opens the slot for this things battery and gets hard from touching its positive/negative terminals. seriously..cam an.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    I do not feel comfortable being around you and I would NEVER leave you alone with my children. You actually believe its ok to fvck something that has 0 association with sex. Men have an association with sex, they have a penis, so if 2 men wanna fvck each other in that regard to me it DOES make sense.
    There is a large human element at play.
    have you ever watched a porn and jerked off? arent you directly using a machine to get your rocks off? you dirty, filthy freak show...lusting over your TV screen like its a real person. its just a box of wires you animal. no way youre ever babysitting my kids, monster.
    honestly dude, thats how outrageous you sound.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    There is no element of logic to explain why the hell some random nutjob would get off sticking their cock in a vacuum or w/e fancy technological creations freaks have invented and made people like you believe are ok to fvck (blow up dolls and what not). Sit here all day trying to justify it I don’t give a fvck. Its EXTREMELY weird, borderline scary, and I think people who do that crap need to see a shrink asap before they start projecting that same urge onto things that CAN feel and CAN be hurt.
    That’s what scares me, and what scares me even more is that it doesn’t scare you.
    dude, bottom line..your perception on this is off. there is something here effecting your objectivity man, honestly. compairing any method of masterbation to ****in kids? think about this shit, re-evaluate. can someone else chime in here??

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