A very short cycle...

[pedrolatino]

When I decided to take steroids I realized I only had 8 weeks ahead of me...

So, I decided to take DECA + SUSTANON during these 8 weeks...I unfortunately don't have any more time to do a proper 10 week or 12 week cycle, because I will be traveling internationally at the end of those 8 weeks, and I can't risk having customs find steroids in my luggage going to my summer vacations.

I will be working out during that month when i am on vacations, but no injections.

I am now finishing week 4 of my deca + testosterone

I am also finishing a 4 week cycle of D-bol, which gave me good results...

Now that I am going to week 5, I was thinking about taking WINSTROL, because I gained some weight that came with the muscles...

IS IT POSSIBLE TO KEEP ON DOING MY DECA + SUSTANON and also add some Winstrol for 4 weeks????

Is it too damaging for my liver?

Am I going to see results, like a six pack with only 4 weeks of Winstrol? I am on a VERY strict diet and working out with a personal trainer...

THANK YOU, EVERYONE!!!!

[pedrolatino]

By the way: This is my first cycle ever!!!

[alpmaster]

Winny doesn't make six packs...

Ugh.

[D7M]

you should've got on here before you started that cycle.

don't take the winny, it doesn't burn fat.

what's your pct?

[*El Diablo*]

*facepalm* moment.

[elpropiotorvic]

I'd say don't do it.... Injectables have no effect on ur liver.... Saludos
me parece que deberias dejar el ciclo para cuando en verdad tengas tiempo para planearlo y hacerlo ... Y una buena terapia post ciclo

[elpropiotorvic]

Vas a Latinoamérica ?

[Mooseman33]

cut the shit man, english please....

OP--cut the shit also, stop with the deca man, just finish the test.
forget the winny.
are u running PCT? are u traveling with that?

[pedrolatino]

cut the shit man, english please....

OP--cut the shit also, stop with the deca man, just finish the test.
forget the winny.
are u running PCT? are u traveling with that?

Why stop the deca? Why only the test?

Why forget the winny? I thought it was supposed to also cut you and define your muscles...

My friends who had Winstrol cycles ended up with six packs (with the right diet and cardio, of course) and the ones who did other stuff became stocky and fat (with muscles, though)...

[pedrolatino]

you should've got on here before you started that cycle.

don't take the winny, it doesn't burn fat.

what's your pct?

And yes, I am traveling with Proviron (Mesterone 25mg)...that is the only PCT I know about...and liver protection pills, too...

what else would you suggest?

WINNY doesn't burn fat, but it defines muscle instead of bloating you...I wanna look ripped, not stocky...

[benny_jerry]

love mooseman already ha

[pedrolatino]

*facepalm* moment.

What is a facepalm moment?

[pedrolatino]

I'd say don't do it.... Injectables have no effect on ur liver.... Saludos
me parece que deberias dejar el ciclo para cuando en verdad tengas tiempo para planearlo y hacerlo ... Y una buena terapia post ciclo

Why not do it? Most of my friends got the best ripped bodies with winny...

No quiero esperar hasta proximo ano...quiero hacerlo agora como un "first taste"...

Si, voy a casa...a Brasil! Tu de donde eres?

[pedrolatino]

SOMETHING ELSE THAT WORRIES ME IS THAT MY FACE IS VERY SWOLLEN...mostly cheeks and mouth...I am looking a bit funny...

Is that from the deca, test or d-bol?

I am definitely stopping deca because it causes a lot more water retention than the others, right?

Anyone?

[Mooseman33]

SOMETHING ELSE THAT WORRIES ME IS THAT MY FACE IS VERY SWOLLEN...mostly cheeks and mouth...I am looking a bit funny...

Is that from the deca, test or d-bol?

I am definitely stopping deca because it causes a lot more water retention than the others, right?

Anyone?

u need to stop all of it and run a lil pct...

u have no knowledge of the chems u are using.
u are going by what ur friends do and say, bad choice jr....

read and research as much as u can, work on ur diet, that is what gives u the ripped look.

u have no business using AAS at this time...........

[elpropiotorvic]

soy de colombia, pero estoy seguro que en brazil puedes encontrar de todo, aunque no te aconsejaria tomar nada ahora, parece que no haz investigado lo suficiente y de verdad que lo que estas usando son quimicos poderosos, dale tiempo al tiempo, no es por ser caga fiesta pero si vas a tomar esto tienes que estar comprometido con el gimnasio y la dieta y los compuestos, si no puedes hacer un ciclo bien hecho es mejor no hacerlo, de otra forma probablemente terminaras perdiendo los resultados, danandote tus organos y con las bolas mas pequenas.

TRANSLATED

Im from colombia, but im sure u can find everything in brazil, although i would advise not to take anything now, it looks like u havent investigated enough and what u are using are really powerfull chemicals, give it time, dont wana be a party pooper but if you are taking this you have to be committed with the gym, the diet, and the compounds, if you cant pull a good cycle, its better not to do it, otherwise ur probably going to end up loosing ur results, harming urself and with smaller balls

[Mooseman33]

good call on translation brother...

i was about to go shit crazy....

[pedrolatino]

u need to stop all of it and run a lil pct...

u have no knowledge of the chems u are using.
u are going by what ur friends do and say, bad choice jr....

read and research as much as u can, work on ur diet, that is what gives u the ripped look.

u have no business using AAS at this time...........

OK, thanks for the advice...I really appreciate it, but I am taking a dosage of testosterone that is recommended in this website (and others) and I am also taking liver protection medicines...

I stopped Deca and D-bol, because I read here that they are not good enough for my goals...

My diet is perfect and I am training very hard with a personal trainer and a gym partner...

I have gained 5 kilos in 1 month and a half and I am very happy with that...all my measures are up! More than one inch...

I don't agree that I haven't researched enough...I did....but I also took advice from people who have been doing it for a long time...

I have my PCT ready for the moment I stop doing it...in mid December...

Perhaps I didn't understand that Winstrol doesn't burn fat....I always thought that, because most of my friends told me they had the six pack because of winstrol...maybe I was wrong...

I think I will continue the testosterone, in the dosage that is recommended here...400mgs per shot...that's how much I am doing...until the end of week 8...

But my question is: Winstrol is said to be a steroid for cutting cycle...but what is the result? Has anyone here ever used it?

Thanks!

[pedrolatino]

soy de colombia, pero estoy seguro que en brazil puedes encontrar de todo, aunque no te aconsejaria tomar nada ahora, parece que no haz investigado lo suficiente y de verdad que lo que estas usando son quimicos poderosos, dale tiempo al tiempo, no es por ser caga fiesta pero si vas a tomar esto tienes que estar comprometido con el gimnasio y la dieta y los compuestos, si no puedes hacer un ciclo bien hecho es mejor no hacerlo, de otra forma probablemente terminaras perdiendo los resultados, danandote tus organos y con las bolas mas pequenas.

TRANSLATED

Im from colombia, but im sure u can find everything in brazil, although i would advise not to take anything now, it looks like u havent investigated enough and what u are using are really powerfull chemicals, give it time, dont wana be a party pooper but if you are taking this you have to be committed with the gym, the diet, and the compounds, if you cant pull a good cycle, its better not to do it, otherwise ur probably going to end up loosing ur results, harming urself and with smaller balls

Hi there......maybe better in English to avoid the work of translating...

So, I agree with you that I could research more and do a full cycle next time, but it also depends on the results that I want...

I am not looking to be a bodybuilder or one of those guys who are in competitions...I only did this for the looks as I wanted to see some changes in my body.

I don't know if that makes any sense to you, but I have been doing this for 5 weeks only and I pretty much already have the body I wanted to begin with...

Maybe then a full 12-week cycle is not exactly what I am looking for, as I don't wanna look massively HUGE...

Correction: I am committed to my diet, to the gym 6 days a week (3 of them with a trainer, the other 3 with a partner) and I have a good PCT ready for when I stop it...

GRACIAS HERMANO!

[scamp]

I'd say don't do it.... Injectables have no effect on ur liver.... Saludos
me parece que deberias dejar el ciclo para cuando en verdad tengas tiempo para planearlo y hacerlo ... Y una buena terapia post ciclo

injectable winstrol is bad for the liver, its not as bad as the orals but it does have an effect on the liver

[marcus300]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training?

[pedrolatino]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training?

Been training for real for the past 3 years and a half now...

1.74m (5' 9")

80 kg (177 lbs)...

Before I started the injections 5 weeks ago I was 75 kg (165 lbs)...I was 11.5% body fat and now I am 8.2%...just did my body composition analysis yesterday...

I feel like I retained too much water from the deca, so I stopped it...my belly is not as ripped as someone who has 8.5% body fat...

I stopped the dbol as well after 4 weeks...hopefully taking no more deca and dbol the acne and water retention will go down...

I am taking only TEST now, but I was thinking about Winny (injectable)...for the next 4 weeks only...100 mg every monday and thursday...mixed with Test...is that OK? Will that give me an edge?

[pedrolatino]

injectable winstrol is bad for the liver, its not as bad as the orals but it does have an effect on the liver

Thanks...I was aware that Winny was bad for the liver, that's why I am taking some protection:

- Essentiale and Milk Thistle...and also vitamin B complex (oral)...

I am also not touching alcohol...

But do you think winstrol will give me good results for my last 4 weeks only if I mix it with the TEST?

Any more ideas for liver protection?

[doctorb325]

It would not be wise to take winstrol now. Save it for a future cycle. You gained weight because dianabol, deca, and testosterone all cause weight gain and water retention. You'll lose the water weight when you come off the cycle, but 8 weeks on oral steroids is a bad idea.

You are much, much better off saving the winstrol and using it in a cutting cycle in the future. If you want a six pack, it's not going to come in 4 weeks if you don't have visible abs right now, unless you lose a substantial amount of muscle as well.

[pedrolatino]

It would not be wise to take winstrol now. Save it for a future cycle. You gained weight because dianabol, deca, and testosterone all cause weight gain and water retention. You'll lose the water weight when you come off the cycle, but 8 weeks on oral steroids is a bad idea.

You are much, much better off saving the winstrol and using it in a cutting cycle in the future. If you want a six pack, it's not going to come in 4 weeks if you don't have visible abs right now, unless you lose a substantial amount of muscle as well.

Thanks, doc...but I am not gonna be on oral steroids for 8 weeks...

I only did DBOL orally for 4 weeks...

The rest is injectable, the deca, the test...not oral...

And the winny that I have is not oral, it's liquid.

I understand that nobody advises me to take it now for 4 weeks only, but what would be the results in case I did...? Together with my last 4 weeks of TEST?

Thanks

[pedrolatino]

When you guys say cutting cycle, what does it mean?

I saw that expression on the info about winstrol, but I thought it meant defining muscle...

[pedrolatino]

GUYS: I SAW THIS ON STEROIDSOURCES(dot)COM...

As earlier stated, Winstrol is primarily used for cutting cycles, especially prior to (untested) competitions. Thus, it is stacked with other drugs such as Deca, Trenbolone or Testosterone as the latter drugs bring in the necessary muscle buildup, while Winstrol reduces water content and cuts the muscle to bring forth a ripped look that is highly-prized during competitions.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN: WINSTROL GIVES YOU A RIPPED BODY...NOT THAT BEEFY STOCKY LOOK...

Comments?

[D7M]

^edit that link out of your post, please.