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    See you know I respect you.. and I take everything you say brother to heart.. ok bad choice of word for topic... but... I am prescribed 400mgs EW...

    Why, because at 250mgs EW my Total Test level was at 432ng/ml I think that is how it is worded, so he jumped me temporarily to 400mgs EW (Cyp 2ml's 200mg/ml per week) which at that dose gave me a total test of 874ng/ml... HIGH SIDE NORMAL according to him.. and so it sits..

    Yes I took it upon myself to go ahead and jump me to 500mgs EW.. that when he did my blood work at that gave me a total test of 1101ng/ml.. and he was wondering why and I told him because I mistakenly did too much and was administering 500mgs per week instead of the prescribed 400...

    So I do not think my DOCTOR is overprescribing me... I think he is doing what is medically correct and I am the idiot for jumping it that extra 100mgs per week.. In my head it's so I can make continuous gains whilst cruising .. so i don't have to implement an oral during cruising time.. like dbol at a mild 20mgs ED.

    Do you think I am wrong?? Obviously ... but now that you know the results.. IS HE WRONG??

    Should he have kept me at 250mg per week level??

    I guess I was a little presumptious in my post.. I just kind of took offense when you said I was doing too much.. I didn't personally think that I was.. and yes I know there are STUDIES stating that bro, but there are also STUDIES disproving the study you posted, I'll spend some time hunting for it.. I know I have read it and it totally contradicts every statement in that one...

    There are going to be arguments for both sides.. of course there are.. as there are with anything and everything... My basis falls upon what my personal physician says. And what I know through studying.. If my AAS use kills me, or gives me a heart attack and i survive, ok.. cool. I am a grown man and it's my life. I have been up to this point with my use, QUITE MILD. In fact I have only been taking 500mgs EW for the past 16 weeks. (Typical LONG cycle length) So it's not like I have been running 500mgs EW for 5 years wiithout a break or dip in intensity. It isn't like I am 30% BF and eat like a COW. Ok well I eat COW, just NOT an abundance of shit food.

    Enough about that, let's save the rest for another thread/another topic...

    Back to making babies...


    YOU THINK I WILL SERVE A BETTER CHANCE JUMPING ON HCG at 250iu's DAILY or what was it.. EOD?? If that's the case.. I will have to wait until next month to start this process... I was thinking of implementing it anyways.. since I am going to start a total re-work of my AAS use... Once again.. another topic.. another thread...

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    Kratos can you ellaborate on the Heart attack part ? I didn't quite understand it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    Why, because at 250mgs EW my Total Test level was at 432ng/ml I think that is how it is worded, so he jumped me temporarily to 400mgs EW (Cyp 2ml's 200mg/ml per week) which at that dose gave me a total test of 874ng/ml... HIGH SIDE NORMAL according to him.. and so it sits..

    Yes I took it upon myself to go ahead and jump me to 500mgs EW.. that when he did my blood work at that gave me a total test of 1101ng/ml.. and he was wondering why and I told him because I mistakenly did too much and was administering 500mgs per week instead of the prescribed 400...

    So I do not think my DOCTOR is overprescribing me... I think he is doing what is medically correct and I am the idiot for jumping it that extra 100mgs per week.. In my head it's so I can make continuous gains whilst cruising .. so i don't have to implement an oral during cruising time.. like dbol at a mild 20mgs ED.

    Do you think I am wrong?? Obviously ... but now that you know the results.. IS HE WRONG??

    Should he have kept me at 250mg per week level??


    Back to making babies...

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    I don't have enough information to make an assessment on weather he is right or wrong.

    Usually with hrt the target range is somewhere between 300-700
    depends on a lot of other facters, free test, estradiol, DHT, SHBG
    but if you're younger, he may like you on the high side
    you're under a doctors care, so you aren't being careless, and you're informing your doc of everything you are doing...some people self prescribe and I thought you fell into that catagory, sry I assumed. If I were you I would drop into the range he wants you in...high dose trt might not yeild more muscle mass in the long run and best to do as your doc says.

    A couple quick things
    I'm suprized he isn't concerned why it takes so much to regulate your test levels. Aka, where is it all going? For example, hopefully he's watching your liver enzymes, as increased metabolism of test can be a sign of liver stress. Testosterone itself can cause liver cysts and benign tumors (which almost always cease upon discontinuation) so it's a valid concern that you might just want to touch with him on next time you see him. 250mg should be enough for 2 weeks in most men. 500mg to bring you where you are is an awful lot, which is why I was concerned. But your doc is an endo, so I'm guessing he has an idea what's going on.

    But back to your baby problem
    you need gonadotropins online to produce sperm.
    so some type of continuous hcg regiment will most likely be needed until she gets pregnant. And, since you're seeing an endo, you should maybe talk with him about an hcg/hmg protocol. Hmg mimics folicle stimulating hormone and can also help you get your count up. As far as clomid, it's useless to you as it will have a negligible effect on your LH levels, because you're on hrt.

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