HCG and test in the same syringe?

[M302_Imola]

If you want to minimise the amount of intra-muscular injections you're doing then you might be best off to inject the hCG into the fat on your belly. I started a thread about it recently:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=408038

Yeah but if he is already having to inject the test IM might as well draw up his HCG as well and kill 2 birds w/ one stone (as long as the total amount in the syringe is 3cc's or less, assuming he is pinning in the glute).

[KimboHalfSlice]

Yeah but if he is already having to inject the test IM might as well draw up his HCG as well and kill 2 birds w/ one stone (as long as the total amount in the syringe is 3cc's or less, assuming he is pinning in the glute).

I was considering this myself but I thought it might be quite difficult to get an accurate dosage of hCG seeing as how the volume of hCG will be very small, 0.25ml at the most.

For instance let's say you load a syringe with 1cc of Test E. Next you stick the needle into a bottle of Deca and you pull out liquid until you've got 2cc in the syringe.

When you're pulling liquid out of the Deca vial, you don't have the option of shooting a little bit back into the vial if you draw too much (because you'll be contaminating the Deca with Test).

After that you have to draw hCG, which is an even smaller volume and needs to be more accurate, and again you can't shoot any liquid back into the vial. It will be awkward again.

I suppose one way of going about it would be:
1) Draw 0.1cc of hCG exactly
2) Next draw Test E until the syringe has 1.1cc worth of liquid
3) Next draw Deca until the syringe had 2.1cc worth of liquid

It's doable but I think it would take skill to get it right the first time without having to shoot any liquid back into any of the vials.

[Big]

I was considering this myself but I thought it might be quite difficult to get an accurate dosage of hCG seeing as how the volume of hCG will be very small, 0.25ml at the most.

huh? how would you know what the volume would be without knowing the ratio at which it was constituted? personally I use HCG at 500iu/e5d when I use it, and I constitute it by adding 10ml fluid to 5000iu powder so that 1ml is 500iu. there are many different methods that work, but it's certainly not accurate to assume that the volume of HCG would be 0.25ml at most.

[vaders4]

huh? how would you know what the volume would be without knowing the ratio at which it was constituted? personally I use HCG at 500iu/e5d when I use it, and I constitute it by adding 10ml fluid to 5000iu powder so that 1ml is 500iu. there are many different methods that work, but it's certainly not accurate to assume that the volume of HCG would be 0.25ml at most.

Hey big should I just throw that 1ml amp of sodium chloride in the garbage? the one that comes with the HCG?

Also, when running 500mg of test c a week, do you think it's ok to run 250iu 2x a week of HCG?

I was going to put 1cc of test and half a ML of HCG (5000iu per 10ML bac water) in one syringe and just dart that up 2x a week.

Should I run my AI .25 EOD right off the bat or only if I have symptoms?

[Big]

Hey big should I just throw that 1ml amp of sodium chloride in the garbage? the one that comes with the HCG?

Also, when running 500mg of test c a week, do you think it's ok to run 250iu 2x a week of HCG?

I was going to put 1cc of test and half a ML of HCG (5000iu per 10ML bac water) in one syringe and just dart that up 2x a week.

Should I run my AI .25 EOD right off the bat or only if I have symptoms?

250iu 2x a week is fine, personally I only use an ai if either symptoms call for it, or if past cycle experience has shown me that I will need it on the cycle in question.
I use bacteriostatic water for constitution.
the reason I use a larger amount of fluid is so the increments aren't so precise, if 1ml = 500iu, and you draw just a touch above or below the line, which could be easy to do if mixing with your gear in the same syringe, the small difference isn't much. if it is constituted so that .1ml = 500iu, and you miss the line by a fraction, your dose is now way off.

[KimboHalfSlice]

huh? how would you know what the volume would be without knowing the ratio at which it was constituted? personally I use HCG at 500iu/e5d when I use it, and I constitute it by adding 10ml fluid to 5000iu powder so that 1ml is 500iu. there are many different methods that work, but it's certainly not accurate to assume that the volume of HCG would be 0.25ml at most.

You're right, you can add more water to give a lower concentration.

10ml is a lot of water. The most I've seen anyone ever use to re-constitute 5000iu of hCG is 5ml. I'm not saying there's only one way of doing it though.

I was thinking of reconstituting with only about 2.5ml of water, giving a concentration of 2000iu per ml. That way, if I want to shoot 200iu of it, I only have to shoot 0.1ml at a time, which is ideal for subcutaneous. I'd be shooting 200iu every 2nd day.

One reason why I'd suggest to inject hCG more frequently is because it's half-life is somewhere around the 3.5 days mark.

[M302_Imola]

I was considering this myself but I thought it might be quite difficult to get an accurate dosage of hCG seeing as how the volume of hCG will be very small, 0.25ml at the most.

For instance let's say you load a syringe with 1cc of Test E. Next you stick the needle into a bottle of Deca and you pull out liquid until you've got 2cc in the syringe.

When you're pulling liquid out of the Deca vial, you don't have the option of shooting a little bit back into the vial if you draw too much (because you'll be contaminating the Deca with Test).

After that you have to draw hCG, which is an even smaller volume and needs to be more accurate, and again you can't shoot any liquid back into the vial. It will be awkward again.

I suppose one way of going about it would be:
1) Draw 0.1cc of hCG exactly
2) Next draw Test E until the syringe has 1.1cc worth of liquid
3) Next draw Deca until the syringe had 2.1cc worth of liquid

It's doable but I think it would take skill to get it right the first time without having to shoot any liquid back into any of the vials.

You just have to be very careful...reminds me of a lot of my Chemistry labs when I was in college. If you are off by a fraction, it fukes everything up!