improve naturally after 1st cycle?it is possible??

[tommy22]

Hi guys,

Iam 35 years old,I have never had any steroids,but I would like to try that,but I only want to overcome stagnation,I train 5 - 6 years and I want to try one cycle and then workout naturally again and for example for 1 or 2 year try anather one cycle.My question is if is possible to improve naturally after one cycle.I will have classic cycle with anabol and stanozolol

thanks for your answer and help

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i would also like to know the answer to this

[Subotai]

Could you give us more stats?
Weight bodyfat training time ect?

Your ability to make gains after your first cycle depend on:
How good your diet is
How good your training is
What kind of cycle you ran
How effectively you implemented a post cycle therapy

[CanYouDigIt]

once you reach you're plateaus it becomes a very painful to gain weight after that, you might gain 1 pound every 2-3 months, and if you're not spot on you're diet, you won't even notice this increase.

which is why people turn to steroids so they can blast thrue these plateaus and keep gaining weight like they first started training...

[MotoLifter]

I have gained naturally after cycles, granted not directly after but down the road. it is hard, but we didnt get into this lifestyle thinking it was a cake walk. although i am younger that 35. my last cycle was about 2 or 3 years ago and have gained lean mass since then. dunno if it helps.


Moto

[ghettoboyd]

i think your choice of cycles is not good(no test).....i dont see why you cant gain natty after a cycle but remember that you will loose some of your gains(muscle and strength) and that may cause you to become depressed after and make it hard to train.....just throwing that out there.....goodluck....

[DS21]

How big are you?

For a person 5'10", 250lbs with 12% BF it would be hard to gain without steroids. But a person 5'10", 180lbs with 12% BF it wouldn't be hard to gain, IMO. Diet is always key to growth.

[Subotai]

How big are you?

For a person 5'10", 250lbs with 12% BF it would be hard to gain without steroids. But a person 5'10", 180lbs with 12% BF it wouldn't be hard to gain, IMO. Diet is always key to growth.

Very true, but he probably wouldn't get to 5'10 250 lean before his first cycle anways

[tommy22]

I have 197 lb and train 5 - 6 years,last 3 years I really get strictly and good diet,but my progress go last year very slowly,i have to pct clomid and tamoxifene

[darkcrayz]

you can keep gaining but its going to be slow; especially if you are at or near your natural potential. from my understanding an advanced trainee can put on 5-10lbs a year lean mass naturally if everything is on point.

at your age however it might be a different story, your test levels will be dropping and it will be harder to put lean mass on. id ask some of the older members there thoughts on what they went through as their test started dropping before they went on hrt to get an idea of what to expect.

[dec11]

How big are you?

For a person 5'10", 250lbs with 12% BF it would be hard to gain without steroids. But a person 5'10", 180lbs with 12% BF it wouldn't be hard to gain, IMO. Diet is always key to growth.

, how wouldnt it? you dont knw if someone has hit their limit or not

[Swifto]

Yes, its possible. But it says to me that you wernt that near your genetic limit before using AAS.

I 2 cycles, then gained for 3-4 years natural and using the odd PH/Designer Steroid, then used AAS again.

[LeroyB]

If you use AAS before reaching your natural peak and while on cycle you do not reach your natural peak -
THEN you should keep gaining.
OR
If you are at your Natural Max and use AAS then you will not gain until or unless you use more.
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At least thats how I understand it.

[Kdub]

When I first began, there was a psychological factor involved that lead to increased motivation.

First cycle was over, "Wow, love how the new muscle looks and feels and I love the new stength. Geez, getting big is possible and no longer a question in my mind. I now have biceps! AWESOME. Gonna be great working them and showing them off. The chicks will love 'em!"

And they did. I also enjoyed the new found respect from other males both my age and older so I was motivated to keep the training up and making sure I recovered and ate well.

[FranciscoG]

It all depends on your genetics and enviroment(eating, training, sleeping).

[tommy22]

It is enough if I have for pct after cycle with anabol,trinabolan and stanozolol only clomid and tamoxifen??I wil go anabol for first 4 weeks to 30-40 mg then I go trinabolan and all cycle I will go stan 30-50 mg

[tommy22]

should I go proviron too?