I just find Winny dries out the joints if you run it too long. Pain in the ass if you have any joint issues prior.

Worst combo for muscle cramps I ever had was Clen and Winny tabs....lol.

As for the injectable the highest I went was 100mg's EOD.

The guy who ran 100mg's/day with the tabs was nuts and I wouldn't be surprised if he sh*ts out his liver one of these days. lol