PRIMO and MASS BUILDING SCENARIO and DISCUSSION

[NVR2BIG1]

Well I'm not flaming anyone on dosages, because its all relative really. Thats the one thing that often pisses me off about peoples reply's. You could tell them your running 800 mg/wk of test and they're asking you why its so high, yet they have no info on past cycle experience or your stats. Shit man, I'm just jealous b/ I caould never afford that sort of cycle, hahaha

[ranging1]

Ok, at the current moment I am running 975mgs of Sust, 280mgs of Dbol, and 525mgs of NPP per week, currently (oh and 350mgs of Proviron weekly)

Ok.. basically for some reason my body either doesn't like Test or fights it off or something.. because I am prescribed 400mgs of Cypionate every week as a baseline HRT dosage. *My Endo doesn't know why it takes this much to get a Total Test level of 834ng/ml but it does...* So with that being said. I don't gain like you normally would off of typical cycle doses.. I had my Blood tested for total test on 2g's per week to get a better assessment.. and it was 2761ng/ml(for those that don't know that's just a little bit above or below the standard for a good slamming cycle.. usually 2500-3100ng/ml of Total Test is what you should be aiming for)

So moving on... Upon completion of what I am running at the moment.. I will start a cycle that is as follows..

1-10 Sust - 1300mgs EW (Split in EOD shots)
1-10 Enan - 250mgs EW 125mgs E3D
1-10 Susp - 350mgs EW (50mgs Pre-workout injects-experimental)
1-10 NPP - 525mgs EW (75mgs ED)
3-10 TrenA- 525mgs EW (75mgs ED) - Transverse 8 wk run
1-10 MastBlend(Enan + Prop) - 300mgs EOD **
1+2 Adrol - 50mgs ED (25mgs twice daily)
3-6 Adrol- 100mgs ED (50mgs twice daily
-1-10 Caber - 500mcgs E3D -- I will start this (as i always do) 1 week before a 19-nor

Also I will be running an IGF Protocol with 25mcgs injected Bi-Laterally on workout days (50mcgs per day) = 250mcgs EW

**= This will not be used as more of kick up of the sex drive when running the double 19-nor .. not to mention reduction of any Estro sides

That's at the moment. Of course it is subject to change. It's been forever since I did a Tren/Npp cycle, the test is at a level that will institute growth in my body(for whatever reason it needs that much).. Really The only thing I see as I look at it is taking the suspension out of the Equation smf just jumping the Enanthate dossge to 500mgs EW instead of the suspension.. which will drop the Test by 100mgs EW, but oh well.

I won't need any A.I.'s -- i never bloat uncontrollably but as a precaution that's why I am sticking that MAST in there. Cabergoline is a necessity always has been always will be.

okay f.e, for idea how about once uve finished ur current cycle u cruise on ur normal HRT dosage for 6-8 weeks, similar to a bridge, just becuase after you come out of this cycle ur recptors, SHGB, insulin resitance aswell as ur body being use to a higher calorie diet is going to make gaining alot harder since it has adapted in many ways to combat the large amount of steroid usage

if u were to cruise for awhile on ur HRT dosage it would bring down alot of your tolerance to steroids, rather then u jumping from one HEAVY cycle to another

obviously it takes more steroids for ur body to respond, but jumping from what ur on now to the cycle u proposed isnt the best idea since ur bodys already getting use to the large amount of gear ur on, so ur not going to egt much bang out of ur gear like u should

also to ur propsed cycle, have u considering maybe increasing ur tren dosage slightly, and dropping ur NPP slightly, just becuase IMO id side with tren more then NPP if i was trying to gain more strength and size, i think NPP of 400mg and tren at 600mg might yeild nicer results, i perosnaly would use NPP more for its benefits on your joints while cycling and lifting those heavy ass weights

i see ur suspension experiment but IMO i think it will prob be a waste since its active life is short, and itll probably only help prevent muscle breakdown during ur workouts, alwise from a muscl ebuilding point of view its active life wont do much to help out

plus its just plain inconvenient, ur goign to be jabbing alot anyways, why add in another 7 jabs? plus im pretty sure suspension would be the most painful thing to inject, since IMO propionate already gives a good sting

Well I'm not flaming anyone on dosages, because its all relative really. Thats the one thing that often pisses me off about peoples reply's. You could tell them your running 800 mg/wk of test and they're asking you why its so high, yet they have no info on past cycle experience or your stats. Shit man, I'm just jealous b/ I caould never afford that sort of cycle, hahaha

lol im already aware of dueces cycle protocols n experiences since ive seen his posts and threads several times