Maintaing a lot of mass 24/7...

[Bossman]

All you ever hear about "pro" cycles and dosages are rumors. There's good reason, they don't want anyone to know. In this thread I've read some cruise on "1 gram" of test per week, one well known powerlifter "7 grams" of test per week and GH cruising of "20iu Ed".

The only people that really know are the pro's and their trainers. Someone go hire a pro trainer and share the info with us.

[Kdub]

All you ever hear about "pro" cycles and dosages are rumors. There's good reason, they don't want anyone to know. In this thread I've read some cruise on "1 gram" of test per week, one well known powerlifter "7 grams" of test per week and GH cruising of "20iu Ed".

The only people that really know are the pro's and their trainers. Someone go hire a pro trainer and share the info with us.

I trained with pros down under back in 96'. Back then, top guys like Matarazzo and Dillet were using 2,000+ mgs per day.

IGF-1 just came out when I was there and one guy in Melbourne, gained 50 lbs of muscle in 30 days and wound up in the hospital with a heart attack. His bodybuilding days were over. During that month, two of his teeth fell out when brushing and he grew a gap between his teeth like Arnold. This guy started the IGF-1 at a lean weight of 120 kg and wound up close to 145 kgs.

My time there altered my thinking of becoming a pro even though my body accepted "high" levels of test extremely well.

[Immortal Soldier]

I trained with pros down under back in 96'. Back then, top guys like Matarazzo and Dillet were using 2,000+ mgs per day.

IGF-1 just came out when I was there and one guy in Melbourne, gained 50 lbs of muscle in 30 days and wound up in the hospital with a heart attack. His bodybuilding days were over. During that month, two of his teeth fell out when brushing and he grew a gap between his teeth like Arnold. This guy started the IGF-1 at a lean weight of 120 kg and wound up close to 145 kgs.

My time there altered my thinking of becoming a pro even though my body accepted "high" levels of test extremely well.

Is IGF-1 even legit?

I been hearing some many conflicting opinions about it about how its useless or not worth it. Like IGF-LRG or whatever its called has been called junk by some vets on this board.

[powerliftmike]

Is IGF-1 even legit?

I been hearing some many conflicting opinions about it about how its useless or not worth it. Like IGF-LRG or whatever its called has been called junk by some vets on this board.

IGF-1 is very big factor in growth, but the IGF we can take-- LR3-igf-1-- is junk. You will get some leaning, thats about all. It had high hopes as did SARMs S4 when they both came into the spotlight but overall both have been dismal failures.

The best recipe for growth and utilizing endogenous production of IGF-1, is testesterone/GH/slin stack. We just cant take IGF directly for a whole host of reasons, mainly its extremely short half-life

[Immortal Soldier]

IGF-1 is very big factor in growth, but the IGF we can take-- LR3-igf-1-- is junk. You will get some leaning, thats about all. It had high hopes as did SARMs S4 when they both came into the spotlight but overall both have been dismal failures.

The best recipe for growth and utilizing endogenous production of IGF-1, is testesterone/GH/slin stack. We just cant take IGF directly for a whole host of reasons, mainly its extremely short half-life

The whole "increased" chance of cancer and tumor growth turns me WAY off from IGF.

Fvck that shit, if I am gonna kill myself its gonna be from steroids clogging my heart