Two Questions.

[Marty_4]

First and foremost

The night sweats, dreams and insomnia with tren ace... Are these through-out or do they diminish after a while?

Second
Also, while waiting for test e to kick in (3 weeks I’m waiting before adding in teh tren) what in opinion would the best be for a good kick and low bloating?

Regards
Marty.

[Teufel_Hunden]

First and foremost

The night sweats, dreams and insomnia with tren ace... Are these through-out or do they diminish after a while?

Second
Also, while waiting for test e to kick in (3 weeks I’m waiting before adding in teh tren) what in opinion would the best be for a good kick and low bloating?

Regards
Marty.

Good kick for low bloating?? You mean what oral to kickstart your cycle? Everyone is gonna ask your stats before they give advice.

[marcus300]

Stats?
cycle history?
how long have you been training?
what is your planned cycle?

[Marty_4]

My stats were on My profile.
28

5'11/6 foot

183 pounds this morning wearing only boxers.

14% body fat, again checked this morning

About 3 years solid. Weight training 5 days a week with cardio every day. Years before also just about 3 times aweek though and quite casual
Cycle history
Test E only cycle 10 weeks@500mg
and
12 week Test E cycle again@500mg.
great gains both time. Very limited sides also with what i know now to have been bad PCT

The cycle planned is test e, tren ace and test prop

Week 1-10 test e 500mg/week.
Week 3-12 tren Ace 200-250mg/week
Week 10-12 test prop 100mg eod (to combat Fina dick just in case)

PCT Starting 4 days after last shot of tren/Test prop.

Regards
Marty

[Marty_4]

Bump

[Marty_4]

Sorry no i didn't mean what oral. I mean what's the best kisckstart produck with minimal bloating? test susp maybe? test prop? etc etc or if orals what?

[hankdiesel]

You can just start the tren at week 1 too. The dreams last for me throughout.

[*Alex*]

you should weight yuor self with no boxers to get most acurate weight! LOL!

[Marty_4]

lol yeah Alex ha. It's just i had got out of bad and it's just more info thought i'd throw it in lol

[MotoLifter]

if your three weeks in just wait till the test e kicks in in afew weeks. shoulda thought about that before starting.


Moto

[goosehntr]

Stats?
cycle history?
how long have you been training?
what is your planned cycle?

2nd this

[Marty_4]

I've put all my stats further up on teh page
I've not started it yet. Due to start two weeks on monday, so i have thought about this first.
Sorry if i've misstyped something
marty

[Marty_4]

As above

My stats were on My profile.
28

5'11/6 foot

183 pounds this morning wearing only boxers.

14% body fat, again checked this morning

About 3 years solid. Weight training 5 days a week with cardio every day. Years before also just about 3 times aweek though and quite casual
Cycle history
Test E only cycle 10 weeks@500mg
and
12 week Test E cycle again@500mg.
great gains both time. Very limited sides also with what i know now to have been bad PCT

The cycle planned is test e, tren ace and test prop

Week 1-10 test e 500mg/week.
Week 3-12 tren Ace 200-250mg/week
Week 10-12 test prop 100mg eod (to combat Fina dick just in case)

PCT Starting 4 days after last shot of tren/Test prop.

Regards
Marty

[AlphaGenetics]

Prop or sus would be a good kickstart.

[Marty_4]

Cheers Alphagenetics. that's great.
Regards
Marty

[marcus300]

If you had great gains from your previous cycle of Test only with no sides i would just go with test and an oral or test and another compound but not tren. I don't think your ready for tren especially when all you have done is Test!!

[Marty_4]

That' great marcus, well not great ha but good to know.

I was desprate for Test and anavar but the anavar is so hard to get hold of apart from injectable which i don't like 9i really don't know why i just have a feeling lol)

Do you have any advice if i leave the tren till later? how long can i keep it while were on the subject?

I'm thinking of a dbol kickstart due to the pain that seems to coem with test prop and sus. But don't fancy dbol as a full part of my cycle.

Other ideas i liked were: -

Test E and Deca (Liquadex would limit bloating would it not?)

Test e and EQ

regards and thanks
Marty

[Marty_4]

Shit i can't.
The bloke i go to is in Nigeria for 6 month.
What exaclt do you mean not ready for the tren? In what way? I'm not contradicting you just wondering?
Regards
Marty

[Marty_4]

Bump

[D7M]

What exaclt do you mean not ready for the tren? In what way? I'm not contradicting you just wondering?
Regards
Marty

A good rule of thumb in this game is to use the least amount of drugs (including amount and potency of the compound) to get the job done.

If you've only done one test cycle, you will most certainly grow just fine without tren.

Regarding what your next cycle would look like, that would depend on your goals. Like Marcus said, test and an oral would be a fine choice.

[marcus300]

Shit i can't.
The bloke i go to is in Nigeria for 6 month.
What exaclt do you mean not ready for the tren? In what way? I'm not contradicting you just wondering?
Regards
Marty

Tren is a very powerful compound and can have some serious sides, normally its for advance guys who have done many cycles or at least who have tried various compounds, all you have done is test only!! you achieve great gains for test only with little sides so why jump right into something what could bring on some serious sides!! you should try another compound with your test or even a oral kickstart

[FCVtec]

I am done with Tren, great results. However, the two times I ran it cost me much hair. I don't really see much hairloss on test but on tren...It just falls off my head... I opted for Test and HGH this time and I am very pleased with the results. Doing more for me than Tren ever did.

[Marty_4]

That's great Guys. Thank you loads.

I'm looking into deca right now. Bloating is the only thing i'm concerned with. But Liquadex should help minimise this ehh?

How long will the 10ml of tren ace keep?

Test E and Decca seems ok? I did two cycles of test E 10 and 12 week and had to be honest no real side effects. Great gains but my pct or lack of ya might say shot my chances of keeping and real gains

Got soooo much more info on it now. just take it a bit slower ehh. The tren was for the ability to keep the gains and noted fat loss as i'm at about 15% B/F. And after i couldn't source VAR.

On that note.. What ya think about me running Test E and EQ?
I can't get hold of it for a about 4-5 month so it buggers summer like.

Can get the decca of a mate of a mate type thing. Fully trustable, well the lad i'm mates with is.

Thanks and regards again lads
Marty

P.s
Once i've got a few more cycles out the way maybe march next year i'm buying a shit load of HGH read and read about it and love the idea.

[Marty_4]

Sorry to pester but BUMP