What do you think? Cycle. . .

[yungone501]

A cycle that does not include test is just flat out stupid.

Sounds to me like you might fear the needle.

[AnimalJ]

A cycle that does not include test is just flat out stupid.

Sounds to me like you might fear the needle.

I doubt its fear of the needle seeing as ill be injecting the EQ. . . . . but from what i gather a cycle without test just wouldn't be taking full advantage of a cycle nor would i reap the most benefit from it. So in saying that im going to include test, i have access to TEST E, Sustanon, Andropen, T400. Just not sure which im gonna use. Thank you for your imput, its appreciated.

-Animal

[yungone501]

I doubt its fear of the needle seeing as ill be injecting the EQ. . . . . but from what i gather a cycle without test just wouldn't be taking full advantage of a cycle nor would i reap the most benefit from it. So in saying that im going to include test, i have access to TEST E, Sustanon, Andropen, T400. Just not sure which im gonna use. Thank you for your imput, its appreciated.

-Animal

Isnt that the point of doing a cycle...to reap all the advantages and benefits?

I myself have done it BOTH ways and take it from me, you will feel like total shit with no Test.

[AnimalJ]

Alright so from every thing i gathered im thinking ( from reading alot of Ronnies posts)

8 week cycle
weeks 1-8
1-4 50 mg Anavar 3 in the morning 2 at night
1-8 Test 1 cc a week once a week (not sure what kind any thoughts?) i can get andropen, sustanon or test E.

1-8 EQ (QV Bold 200) 2 cc a week 1 cc every 4th and 3rd day for a total of 400mg a week.

Arimidex .5 a day perhaps or just keep it on hand.
PCT week of last injection and 3 weeks after clomid every day amount to be determined before i start cycle. maybe throw in noval.

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

Also as mentioned liv-52 + milk thistle how much would you take per day for liver care. Any supplement suggestions? Thanks for any info in advance guys.

[AnimalJ]

one more thing i noticed ronnies protocol is geared towards those wanting to stay on all year with the load and deload, since i want to do 1 cycle and then take time off do the same rules apply? and if i put on 20 pounds lets say, is it possible to keep 10 with the discontinued use off AAS with the proper PCT?

[yungone501]

one more thing i noticed ronnies protocol is geared towards those wanting to stay on all year with the load and deload, since i want to do 1 cycle and then take time off do the same rules apply? and if i put on 20 pounds lets say, is it possible to keep 10 with the discontinued use off AAS with the proper PCT?

You should not be using nor considering the use of steroids.

DO MORE RESEARCH

We shouldn't have to hold your hand the whole way bro.

[laduem88]

I know what you mean, there is a guy at my gym that has been cycling for 3 years straight with one 3 week break (of course no PCT) and he still looks like shit.

Any hair loss issues with mast and are you running it with test/tren or just test?

Not running it with tren...next time though .... just running it with Test and Var...right now im runnning test p @ 100mg ed Var @ 120mg ed and masteron @ 75mg ed. As far as hair loss, nothing so far, never had a history in my family of it so im good

You should not be using nor considering the use of steroids.

DO MORE RESEARCH

We shouldn't have to hold your hand the whole way bro.

exactly part of me feels the need to sometimes just so they dont mess themselves up by doing something stupid. OP come back when you have done more research.

[AnimalJ]

You should not be using nor considering the use of steroids.

DO MORE RESEARCH

We shouldn't have to hold your hand the whole way bro.

Thanks for all the info guys, laudem88 thanks a bunch, your words are dually noted and appreciated. I may go just the test route then, ill do some more research before i decide on anything in particular. the only reason im bent on the var and eq is because my friend has a 20 ml of EQ and 120 anavar he will give me. i just gotta nab the test.

And for Yungone501 i like having my hand held, its so much easier, please continue to do so and aid me in my pursuit for roid knowledge. . .dont just hold my hand but pull it along until im satisfied. Thanks much .

-Animal

[laduem88]

Alright so from every thing i gathered im thinking ( from reading alot of Ronnies posts)

8 week cycle
weeks 1-8
1-4 50 mg Anavar 3 in the morning 2 at night
1-8 Test 1 cc a week once a week (not sure what kind any thoughts?) i can get andropen, sustanon or test E.

1-8 EQ (QV Bold 200) 2 cc a week 1 cc every 4th and 3rd day for a total of 400mg a week.

Arimidex .5 a day perhaps or just keep it on hand.
PCT week of last injection and 3 weeks after clomid every day amount to be determined before i start cycle. maybe throw in noval.

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

Also as mentioned liv-52 + milk thistle how much would you take per day for liver care. Any supplement suggestions? Thanks for any info in advance guys.

you need to do more research cause that cycle sucks...plus you arnt taking my advice by starting with just a test cycle...

8 weeks of both test cyp and EQ, and 4 weeks of var....please...research my a$$

[RANA]

you need to do more research cause that cycle sucks...plus you arnt taking my advice by starting with just a test cycle...

8 weeks of both test cyp and EQ, and 4 weeks of var....please...research my a$$

Not to be a dick but I agree with Laduem, you keep saying you have been reading a lot but you have totally missed the basics.

Hey Laduem is the avy of you or some dude you dig?

[laduem88]

Not to be a dick but I agree with Laduem, you keep saying you have been reading a lot but you have totally missed the basics.

Hey Laduem is the avy of you or some dude you dig?

sorry if im coming off like a dick, must be the masteron haha...OP dont get too caught up in compounds, since you like var maybe do a var only cycle...there are a ton of threads about them, but if i were you i would do a classic test cycle because at the end of the day Test is king and should be in every cycle anyways...you COULD do test/var but honestly you will get VERY good gains off just test i promise..remember no steroids will make you cut...thats going to be all diet and cardio, plus 50mg for 4 weeks is nothing to be honest and var is pricy

nah its not me, but the guy has a very very similar build as i do, im bigger but he's probably 3-4% less bf than i am now and im @ 8-9%...give its 3 weeks and il be there but bigger..it sucks though because i use to be fat so my body has created more fat cells in my mid section which makes it VERY hard to get those bottom abs and have that tight skin look...F-IN HATE IT!!!!