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    actually trib terrest does is active with the androgen receptors in the BRAIN and will put a person in the mental state of AAS( for some) while not causing physical gains AND a otc AI like novedex xt does cause and increase in DHT and i really do like the product for myself not for pct obviously but as a standalone it is worth the money to stay legal and get a boost in free test levels....want my blood test levels??

    anyway though,
    granted you are right, i was a little liberal in the application of info and i concede to you and admit that your farther along than me, but to patronize info as false or untrue is incorrect but hey you are right mostly imo and i like he advice you give so i concede and sorry, but i still must say i be remiss if i didnt say a AI would be unssecary for his original cycle, honestly can you explain why he would need one DURING??

    and yeah 50% if he was the young unexperienced guy i thought he was

    and why does d-bol speed things up d-bol only has modest aromatase activity and really does not increase estrogen to gyno/glucose danger or non-normal levels
    Last edited by AstheticKing; 02-19-2010 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstheticKing View Post
    actually trib terrest does is active with the androgen receptors in the BRAIN and will put a person in the mental state of AAS( for some) while not causing physical gains AND a otc AI like novedex xt does cause and increase in DHT and i really do like the product for myself not for pct obviously but as a standalone it is worth the money to stay legal and get a boost in free test levels....want my blood test levels??
    interesting, the last study i read on tribulus showed no physical gains(as you've stated) but only total test levels were slightly elevated, not free test, if you have a study on it's effects on the androgen receptors i'd love to read it

    sorry, i didn't see the otc part, i thought you were wanting him to take arimidex or aromasin off cycle for a prolonged period

    granted you are right, i was a little liberal in the application of info and i concede to you but to patronize info as false or untrue is immature but hey you are right and i like he advice you give so i concede and sorry but i still must say i be remiss if i didnt say a AI would be unssecary for his original cycle, honestly can you explain why he would need one DURING??
    i meant he would need an AI during cycle to combat water retention, but i was making the assumption that we would be able to prove to him that either a) he didn't need to cycle(problem solved) b) he would run a basic test cycle like the one in the link reed posted earlier, in which case he would need an A.I. on cycle to combat water retention from the test and dbol(which is notorious for causing water retention) and a SERM for pct
    and yeah 50% if he was the young unexperienced guy i thought he was

    and why does d-bol speed things up d-bol only has modest aromatase activity and really does not increase estrogen to gyno/glucose danger or non-normal levels
    i didn't mean that dbol sped things up, i am saying that aromatase(the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen) is a biological catalyst, which means that it will speed up conversion of testosterone to estrogen, especially when fluctuations in blood serum levels occur(which they normally do when using orals due to there rapid absorption and metabolization

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i didn't mean that dbol sped things up, i am saying that aromatase(the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen) is a biological catalyst, which means that it will speed up conversion of testosterone to estrogen, especially when fluctuations in blood serum levels occur(which they normally do when using orals due to there rapid absorption and metabolization
    oh okay...yeh pretty much tru even though i dont use ai with dbol and really never heard of anyone using it for d-bol itself but your info is tru now that i am thinkin about it and readin stuff on it, you have now caught my attention and curiosity on how AAS's that are thought to be estro-free or semi free can cause high estro levels by secondary mechanisms or metabolites,,,,anyway...i keep letro on hand for emergencies and nolva always for my pct i can accsess before my pct but never had to use it prematurely on my dbol primo cycles i did a long long time ago....
    Last edited by AstheticKing; 02-19-2010 at 12:59 AM.

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