CLEN's Anti-catabolic effects, experienced people please chime in.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Mr.Rose, I too have a good tolerance for stimulants. My clen dose reaches 200 a few days before the end of a 2 week cycle and could def take a little more. I have taken 800mg of caffein at one time ( dont ask why ) but that had very little- to no effect on me what so ever. What I am getting at though is, even though the body can tolerate the effects, shakey hands, increased heart rate, etc. is it bad to go passed 200? I heard to stay around 120 so i thought 200 would be about as high as anyone would want to go. How do you feel when you are in dosages of 300, does the fat come off noticably quicker than if just at 200?

Please use caution! If you have asthma tendencies you can have a full blown attack when coming off such a high dose. You could also put your heart into atrial fibrilation using such a high dosages of clen. I would never go over 120 per day and knowing what I know now I personally would never go over 80 per day. Its not worth risking heart damage! Eat cleaner or train harder but don't take 200 of clen per day. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!

[Mr.Rose]

Please use caution! If you have asthma tendencies you can have a full blown attack when coming off such a high dose. You could also put your heart into atrial fibrilation using such a high dosages of clen. I would never go over 120 per day and knowing what I know now I personally would never go over 80 per day. Its not worth risking heart damage! Eat cleaner or train harder but don't take 200 of clen per day. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!

I agree with Ronnie on this, Clenbuterol is not a drug to be messed with, it causes irreversible damage to the cardiovascular system, for example, most notable; enlargement of the ventricles, cardiac hypertrophy and cardiac necrosis. However, these studies which provided those symptoms are done on animals and at much higher doses then we take them. For example, most peopel take clen at 100mcg's and most animals are dosed at mg levels.

For this reason, i have weighted the pro's and con's, and read upon countless of scientific studies and concluded that for ME (yes i said me, because everyone is different), that doses as high as 250-300mcg's wont cause much if any noticeable damage for short cycles. To prove this i am hoping to get heart CT scans soon before and after a month clen cycle. But that may be a far way away.

@americanoak: yeh, i too at times have 400-800mg's of caffeine pre fight or pre training due to the large amount of beneficial properties and studies to confirm them. I run a 200-300mcg cycle of clen from day one, no tapering up or down. Usually 2 weeks on and then two off, unless i have ketotifen on me, then i run 4-6 weeks straight.

[dec11]

I agree with Ronnie on this, Clenbuterol is not a drug to be messed with, it causes irreversible damage to the cardiovascular system, for example, most notable; enlargement of the ventricles, cardiac hypertrophy and cardiac necrosis. However, these studies which provided those symptoms are done on animals and at much higher doses then we take them. For example, most peopel take clen at 100mcg's and most animals are dosed at mg levels.

For this reason, i have weighted the pro's and con's, and read upon countless of scientific studies and concluded that for ME (yes i said me, because everyone is different), that doses as high as 250-300mcg's wont cause much if any noticeable damage for short cycles. To prove this i am hoping to get heart CAT scans soon before and after a month clen cycle. But that may be a far way away.
@americanoak: yeh, i too at times have 400-800mg's of caffeine pre fight or pre training due to the large amount of beneficial properties and studies to confirm them. I run a 200-300mcg cycle of clen from day one, no tapering up or down. Usually 2 weeks on and then two off, unless i have ketotifen on me, then i run 4-6 weeks straight.

fookin most ridiculous statement ive heard in a while