Pyramidding was also his idea. Well just talked to the guy and have enough for an 8 week cycle at 500mg/week, but I see that 10 to 12 weeks is ideal for test e, but can i make good gains off of an 8 week cycle. Im a big guy at 265lbs right now but just want a little more. I would love to add 20lbs but is this realistic with 8 weeks or should I go for 10 to 12. I think this is my first and last cycle. Didnt realize how much this was gonna cost with gear and PCT. Thanks again guys for the input.