run 250mg/week of test e if you do. my friend combines var and winny and loves it, but he doesnt use it for a lean bulker. he says it "shreds me the **** up"...... but idk, that has got to be a little rough on the ol' liver! and btw, he runs high doses of them, 100mg each ed for 6 weeks. and the var is 8 weeks actually