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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    So, would accutane still be safe if your 20 week blast consisted of only orals like the one I'm planning with epi and m14add? I'm only a little confused, because aren't all of these things very hard on the liver? Or is that all just exaggerated information? Please don't over analyze this thing. You'll be fine!
    What's the difference between test e, test c, and test p? Only the active and half life. prop last around 2 days, test e around 2 weeks and test c around 3 weeks. Test is test so results/side effects are going to be the same given the dosages are the same per week. I see no value in using prop-too painful!

    Which is best for someone on a 20 week blast who has never ran test before? test e and test c are my favorite because fewer injections are needed.
    Thank you.

    P.S. Also, did you receive my pm Ron? I sent you one, but my outbox says 0 sent items??? Just let me know if you got it please.I got one of them. I'll double check!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
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    Why do some people use armidex during cycle, as opposed to using nolva/clomid in pct?? Is there an advantage either way? It's one way or the other is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    Why do some people use armidex during cycle, as opposed to using nolva/clomid in pct?? Is there an advantage either way? It's one way or the other is it not?
    Nolvadex lowers IGF levels where as arimidex does not. Less IGF hinders one ability to make muscle gains. That's the primary reason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Nolvadex lowers IGF levels where as arimidex does not. Less IGF hinders one ability to make muscle gains. That's the primary reason!
    Hey Ron, I recently bought the e-books layman's guide to steroids 1 & 2 by Mick Hart. In them, he insists on running 10-20 mg Nolva daily while on cycle to prevent gyno. Couldn't that potentially cause a serious estrogen rebound afterwards? Shouldn't you use an AI on cycle then nolva in pct? He also has no mention of pct what the hell?? I thought this guy was widely respected. He also mentions that anavar is so safe that he stays on it year round. Isn't that a no no? Could you please give me your take on all of this.

    Oh, how does one determine if they should even include an AI on cycle? I noticed you don't really include it in your example cycles or pct. Thanks Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by archangel. View Post
    hey ron, i recently bought the e-books layman's guide to steroids 1 & 2 by mick hart. bad move imo!in them, he insists on running 10-20 mg nolva daily while on cycle to prevent gyno. Couldn't that potentially cause a serious estrogen rebound afterwards? yes and it hinders gains plain and simple shouldn't you use an ai on cycle then nolva in pct? thats the plan for those who need estro blockers but a lot of people do not need them-ever! he also has no mention of pct what the hell?? I thought this guy was widely respected. those books are ancient imo and a complete waste for this day and time. Have you see what he looks like today? It was sad for me to watch! He looked depressed and obese. he also mentions that anavar is so safe that he stays on it year round. Isn't that a no no? [b]i wouldn't but some can run a low dose of var year round without any noticeable problems.could you please give me your take on all of this. Mick hart is the one who was hooked on nubain from what i remember. Imo the book is a complete waste of money for this day and time as i believe it's outdated and innacurate on much of what it teaches. IN FACT, I CONTACTED MICK HART A LONG AGO AND TOLD HIM HIS INFORMATION NEEDED TO BE UPDATED AND THAT HE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE AS A CREDIBLE SOURCE. HE TOLD ME TO GO F###-OFF..HE'S A REAL JERK!!! [/[/COLOR]U]Oh, how does one determine if they should even include an ai on cycle? only if nipples start burning/itching/aching i noticed you don't really include it in your example cycles or pct. Thanks ron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
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    Ron, thanks so much for your help. Could you please lay out a full 20 week blast/cycle for me in complete detail, describing what steroids in what amounts? I already learned what pct to use from this thread.

    My goals are quality size and strength gains, and I would like to harden/shred up some too. I don't mind injecting or stacking or orals.
    From what I've learned so far, maybe test-e plus winny? I'm not sure, you lay it out please. I just want to know exactly what to order and not f**k anything up.

    I've done one prior six week cycle of h-drol as my history.

    I'm 5'7'', 190 at about 15% bf if that helps

    Should I have an AI on hand? Which one is best?

    Also, since I'm trying to shed some fat, would it be a good idea to include clen in my blast??

    Thanks a ton.
    Last edited by Archangel.; 03-04-2010 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    Ron, thanks so much for your help. Could you please lay out a full 20 week blast/cycle for me in complete detail, describing what steroids in what amounts? I already learned what pct to use from this thread.

    My goals are quality size and strength gains, and I would like to harden/shred up some too. I don't mind injecting or stacking or orals.
    From what I've learned so far, maybe test-e plus winny? I'm not sure, you lay it out please. I just want to know exactly what to order and not f**k anything up.

    I've done one prior six week cycle of h-drol as my history.

    I'm 5'7'', 190 at about 15% bf if that helps

    Should I have an AI on hand? Which one is best?

    Also, since I'm trying to shed some fat, would it be a good idea to include clen in my blast??

    Thanks a ton.
    I think it would best for you to post a 20 week cycle you'd like to try and let me critique it as needed because cycles can have many variables according to cycle history, etc. I'm sure you have some sort of idea by now as to what you plan to do.

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