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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Is there anything radical that this guy has not said?

    The terrible thing is that I believe he believes 100% of what comes out of his mouth.

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    The terrible thing I believe is that he won 62% of the popular vote. That the number of people who share these fundamentalist views is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    The terrible thing I believe is that he won 62% of the popular vote. That the number of people who share these fundamentalist views is huge.
    And it is world wide, Hizbollah is not just a terrorist group but also a political party that holds power in Lebanon.

    In southern Iraq many hotels tailor to Iranians by having Farsi speakers.

    On little country of 80 million people has a lot of power.

    Last week they tested thier own cruise missiles and the month before released pics of an f-18 looking plane they built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Last week they tested thier own cruise missiles and the month before released pics of an f-18 looking plane they built.
    I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's probably not any more capable than a cannoe with wings. They don't have the facilities to develop such an aircraft. They don't have a weapons or electronics system to equip it with.

    Likely an old F-5 or F/14 airframe we sold them...then they glued a body kit on.

    An f-22 would destroy this pos in seconds.
    We don't need to be in these wars in the middle east and iran is not a direct threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's probably not any more capable than a cannoe with wings. They don't have the facilities to develop such an aircraft. They don't have a weapons or electronics system to equip it with.

    Likely an old F-5 or F/14 airframe we sold them...then they glued a body kit on.

    An f-22 would destroy this pos in seconds.
    We don't need to be in these wars in the middle east and iran is not a direct threat.
    I believe that under estimating one´s adversary is never a good measure.

    They actually do have extensive weapons facilities. They even launch thier own satelites. They reserse engineered Abrams tanks and most russian missiles. There is a version of the Apache that was built a few years ago. They have developed many weapons systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    I believe that under estimating one´s adversary is never a good measure.

    They actually do have extensive weapons facilities. They even launch thier own satelites. They reserse engineered Abrams tanks and most russian missiles. There is a version of the Apache that was built a few years ago. They have developed many weapons systems.
    Here's some info on the f/18 iran claims to be building...

    the general consensus among more informed observers is that Iran's new fighter is a modified F-5E Tiger II fighter. the F-5E was an early 1970s era low-cost export fighter update of the 1960s-era F-5A fighter/ T-38 supersonic trainer, and it proved very popular with US allies. While Northrop Grumman's F-5 page doesn't mention Iran as an F-5 customer, the Shah's air force most certainly was.

    Twin tails, wings mounted above the intakes with the addition of leading edge strakes, and new avionics would appear to be the major modifications. The reports were careful not to tout new engines or the ability to fire medium-range missiles.


    refurbishing one of their old f-5's is not too impressive...it's nothing but a propaganda plane. Twin tails on a 40 year old plane and trying to pass it off as new technology isn't going to do them any good.

    A helicopter is the most worthless weapon known to man unless you have air superiority. A tank isn't much better. Their navy is non existant.

    They would break us in occupation, just like Iraq is doing, not with their conventional military.

    Here is a pic of their "new" plane side by side with an f-5. They have 40-50 old f-5's they bought in the 70's. Not sure how many they are planning on refurbishing...but a big problem is they don't maintain their aircraft in iran and they fall out of the sky.

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