Last night at the bar PHATE BOJANGLES

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Your good bojangles. Your real good. I agree with you 100% but the stuff you mentioned is some indepth heavy shit that I haven't got to get. I'm still trying to work out the differences between gaming girls my age and girls a few years older.

There are some basics that need to be done to both I.e. Proper body language but I'm not sure whether to neg every girl. If I'm talking to a girl and she hot but really nice and showing interest - do I neg her?

[Bojangles69]

Your good bojangles. Your real good. I agree with you 100% but the stuff you mentioned is some indepth heavy shit that I haven't got to get. I'm still trying to work out the differences between gaming girls my age and girls a few years older.

There are some basics that need to be done to both I.e. Proper body language but I'm not sure whether to neg every girl. If I'm talking to a girl and she hot but really nice and showing interest - do I neg her?

No you do NOT need to neg every girl. But if you ever want to stop getting lucky, and understand what womans real weak points are, I recommend you do it in every situation. But rather then focus on the word "neg" focus on disqualifying her, its just more relavant to the actual behavoir imo (while neggn a lot of times is overdone just by its negative connotation)
Negs should work the same, but the main concept is to drop her resistance. This doesn't automatically convert to sex obviously, but if you had the chance to go into a situation and face resistance, or go into a situation and not face resistance, which would you choose?

You're not insulting them you're merely demonstrating they have no mate potential at all to you. And there really is a lot of sly ways to do it, even sometimes almost sounding like a compliment. Like you can tell a girl that most guys would like a certain aspect of her personality, (maybe she snorts when she laughs who knows) but then you can casually mention thats why you also broke up with your ex, whatever works.
Again, guys are too focused on giving women positive emotions when positive emotions just realistically arent what converts to sex. You are not responsible for her to be happy. You WANT sexual tension, you NEED it, and sexual tension is the byproduct of 2 social status's reacting to each other, just think of it that way. Someone you like will always have the control to irritate you just because you like them. Thats why negative emotions are equally just as important as positive ones when you're seducing. Embarassment and akwardness can always be made to work in your favor too, there are a multitude of benefits just to thinking with this mindset.
Disqualifying raises your status (perceptually) which literally will trigger a biological urge in a lot of women to mate. Because evolution drives women to the highest status male one can maintain relations with, and disqualification defines 2 status's as unequal, it sets the bar for the entire interaction. You NEED that lack of balance or it will be hard to progess forward.
So falsey disqualify her. But then you need to learn how to use DHV spikes to attract her. NEVER TELL a woman "I am __x___" actively DO something or TELL a story that demonstrates you having x.
You can say "I am extremely confident" but great, you're braggin, thats not a DHV spike.
A DHV spike (usually is always relevant to the actual conversation in some way) would be you simply acting confident. And that DOES come down a lot to bodylanguage, but you should have ways of doing it verbally as well, telling stories is the best.

"my exs brakes gave out once and i took the seat and drove the car into a ditch so we didn't drive into oncoming traffic it was crazy" (maybe she needs to get her brakes done and brought it up, obviously use w/e works) it doesn't sound like braggin it sounds like a cool story that happened once where you were confident. THATS a DHV spike, it should be covert and understood, not bold and forced/contrived.

But the idea is to disqualify her first, qualify yourself next, then bait her to qualify back. (so whaddu do for a living? don't be impressed if it geniunely doesn't impress you, show her its not a big deal then fish for another qualification that works for you, it MUST be genuine) At this point is where the real magic works, because EVEN IF a woman wasn't interested to begin, the fact that you have drove her into a dynamic where SHE IS TRYING TO IMPRESS YOU with words, or qualify to you, means that it will FEEL to her like she is interested in you.
Same way you can be totally uninterested in a food if someone mentions it, then you smell it, your mind tells you "hmm" and then you convince yourself you want it. Doing it this way creates an infinite ways of getting "in" to her mind so you can properly escalate to comfort.

I see it happen all the time especially after you have sex and they start saying shit like "I usually never sleep with guys like you". That just means you didn't really hook them till they began qualifying themselves. They don't usually sleep with guys like you but now they will lol.
And comfort is a whole nother story, but it does come more natural I find the closer you get to seduction, till you start doing freeze outs and shit. (stopping a seduction after its gone physical)

Ideally if you don't wanna focus on steps I can tell you like this. The best thing about knowing the model is the SECOND you fail at anything you know why.
Because the model always works in the order it was designed. If a girl is NOT qualifying herself to me I know I didn't properly qualify myself to begin. If a girl is trying to evade me from the second I opened her I know I never properly disqualified her because that resistance shouldn't be there. If I'm trying to isolate in later stages, and shes not doing it, I know I didn't properly run comfort. Anytime you hit a wall, you back up and redo the previous step. You're not being some cocky arrogant asshole, you are showing a woman you have qualities woman want. You are showing a woman because you have those qualities, she must show you qualities in return to win you over.

If you don't make a woman work for it in A3 and you somehow make it through that stage you will encounter a lot of buyers remorse after the close. And you'll wind up with women flaking after the first interaction no matter how it ends (number exchange/sex etc). That woman at the bar, if it wasn't the place for a conversation you had no possibility but to let her go (if people were between you and all, there are ways of shout seducing and getting her to come to you lol but for your own sake be easy on yourself, especially if you're new). If she was right next to you then you could have just said "thanks.. but I hope this doesn't mean I have to go home with you now", and say it dead serious. You use a topic to keep the words flowing, but you flood the topic with everything I said. DHV spikes, disqualifications, befriend her group, establish trust, never have her thinking "this guy will not leave no matter what I say".
Thats another important thing.
Women will test you a lot by saying shit like "I haven't had sex for 3 months or you're not my type". They both may mean totally different things yet they are both very much shit tests.

For the first you say: "thats a shame, you must suck at it" (99% of guys would start humping them at this point)
for the second you laugh hysterically and act relieved, then immediately start a conversation with their friend being nice to them. Say things to them (their friend) like "so... your friend over here... she doesn't get out much does she?".

Seduction is great bro it really is. The one thing I really learned from it was how fvckn sadly on autopilot peoples behavoir really is. Even when people WANT to act different they CAN'T because they simply don't know other ways to behave. You really start to realize how programmed we all are. Even I fall for the shit a lot when I'm not actively doing it. And lastly, what a woman says and what a woman feels are usually never the same. So the last thing you ever want to do is ask a woman for advice. I hate to say it but its true. Seduction is so largely based on reducing and overcoming resistance that it makes it near impossible for a woman to ever directly convey what turns her on. Because its having the power to plow through all the resistance that really gets her going. A smart man once said "attraction is about a woman putting up a wall of resistance and having you overcome it", whether they realize it or not, they are judging you on very common sexual characteristics. The stronger you seem to have them, the greater the attraction.

This system was based on nothing but what converts the most to sex. And I've had one girl who smacked me 10 seconds into meeting her blowing me 2 hours later. Your eyes will open to a whole new world of understanding and whats possible with women if you even semi-remotely got this shit down. Women really make it easy enough for you. All so many men are interested in is ass and tits, if you don't have either or, you're finished reproductively speaking as a female.
But all women really crave is an experience, a tense emotional state that drives them to drop all their resistance. It really is much easier imo to create a stimulating emotional state then it is to look like a fvckn 90lb manakin. Once you know how to do it can take 5 mins, while the latter some women fight for their whole lifetime and still fail at. I do believe men have it much easier. If anything lie to yourself and you'll believe it, then start acting like its easier. The mind is a real amazing piece of work imo. But like anything else based on patterns and routine, there is usually a good strategy for success. G/luck and never be afraid to ask questions in the future.