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    Quote Originally Posted by Someguy123 View Post
    this totally depends on the person. i have awesome gains with d-bol. and i get really ripped and hard. some people tend to gain a lot of water though.

    the main reason people dont reccomend d-bol only. is cause it shuts you down. thats fine if you dont care about getting a hard-on for the duration of your cycle. but thats a big problem for most people.
    Not just some. Most. People aren't just pulling this out of their asses. Anecdotally, most people bloat terribly on cycle and then lose the majority of their gains after a DBol cycle. I can vouch for this with personal experience. I won't even do Dbol with test anymore.

    To the OP - No, gear today is every bit as good or better than it was during your day.

    Also, where are you getting that people on this forum offer cycle advice to teenagers? All I've ever seen here is people discouraging teenagers from using, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quo View Post
    Not just some. Most. People aren't just pulling this out of their asses. Anecdotally, most people bloat terribly on cycle and then lose the majority of their gains after a DBol cycle. I can vouch for this with personal experience. I won't even do Dbol with test anymore.

    To the OP - No, gear today is every bit as good or better than it was during your day.
    Also, where are you getting that people on this forum offer cycle advice to teenagers? All I've ever seen here is people discouraging teenagers from using, period.
    oh right so you can transport yourself back in time then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by declan11 View Post
    oh right so you can transport yourself back in time then?
    You in a bad mood today, Declan?

    Nope. But I do know that everyone thinks that things are never as good as back when they did it. It's a very common syndrome. And why would gear be of worse quality today in spite of all kinds of advances in knowledge and chemistry? It makes no sense and there is no evidence to back such an assertion other than a bunch of guys who used to juice think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quo View Post
    Not just some. Most. People aren't just pulling this out of their asses. .

    i never said anyone was pulling anything out their ass. or calling anyone out. all i said is people are different, and gave my personal experience, which happens to be different from the norm. the point i was making, is that if something works for you, then go for it.

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