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    Thats fair moto, I cant disagree with anything you said. My original confusion really centered around what you consider "worthwhile" gains. I think everyone is different. Gaining 25lbs in your first cycle of dbol to lose 23 of it off cycle is something I always laughed at.

    My personal philosophy was to really rely on my good genetics, nutrition and heavy training along with different confusion principals to gain size, and then use something like Anavar/Deca to retain as much as I could but get super hard. Everyone has different goals and perspectives. Im not now nor was I ever the type to be walking around at 250lbs at 5'9" looking very freaky. To me those huge freaks are very fleeting. They come and go, if you wanna be in this game a long time you have to take a different approach.

    Be smart people.......tease your system, work hard when you are off cycle, youll be around a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiFlex View Post
    Thats fair moto, I cant disagree with anything you said. My original confusion really centered around what you consider "worthwhile" gains. I think everyone is different. Gaining 25lbs in your first cycle of dbol to lose 23 of it off cycle is something I always laughed at.

    My personal philosophy was to really rely on my good genetics, nutrition and heavy training along with different confusion principals to gain size, and then use something like Anavar/Deca to retain as much as I could but get super hard. Everyone has different goals and perspectives. Im not now nor was I ever the type to be walking around at 250lbs at 5'9" looking very freaky. To me those huge freaks are very fleeting. They come and go, if you wanna be in this game a long time you have to take a different approach.

    Be smart people.......tease your system, work hard when you are off cycle, youll be around a long time.
    Stick around awhile and read some of the threads that are posted and who is posting them, and what they have done naturally and you'll see the absolute lack of knowledge about even the most basic of training or diet, then you'll see where the "anti dbol" ideas fit.

    Oh and I dont think he was talking about you being a newb but i could be wrong, its happened before


    Moto

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoLifter View Post
    Stick around awhile and read some of the threads that are posted and who is posting them, and what they have done naturally and you'll see the absolute lack of knowledge about even the most basic of training or diet, then you'll see where the "anti dbol" ideas fit.

    Oh and I dont think he was talking about you being a newb but i could be wrong, its happened before


    Moto
    heres and example...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423149

    no disrespect intended to the OP of that thread but that is almost a template for the "can I take dbol and get massive" thread. Again thats not what tha particular member said, but give it 2 weeks and 1 0r 2 drunken conversations at the bar with someone who thinks they know what they are talking about and...TAHHHDAHHHH: the Can I take Dbol and gain 40lbs of ripped thread.


    Moto

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoLifter View Post
    heres and example...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423149

    no disrespect intended to the OP of that thread but that is almost a template for the "can I take dbol and get massive" thread. Again thats not what tha particular member said, but give it 2 weeks and 1 0r 2 drunken conversations at the bar with someone who thinks they know what they are talking about and...TAHHHDAHHHH: the Can I take Dbol and gain 40lbs of ripped thread.


    Moto
    this is one good example of why people need to do more and more reserch....

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