Most vets will tell you that your BF is too high and diet and cardio are needed 1st. Then most will also probably recommend a good test base for your first cycle. I am no expert but would guess this is what most vets will advise. Good luck!
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Most vets will tell you that your BF is too high and diet and cardio are needed 1st. Then most will also probably recommend a good test base for your first cycle. I am no expert but would guess this is what most vets will advise. Good luck!
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are you powerlifting or bodybuilding?
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He's definitely not bodybuilding at that bf%. He did mention his buddy was a power lifter so I can understand not being too worried about bf but hitting a wall after a year of training? Definitely a diet issue and/or training issue.Originally Posted by terraj
I trained for 6 years plus before I hit a wall and started AAS this year. I still had some gains to be made naturaly but they were coming way too slow at that point.
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It's diet, not training. I started eating 6 meals a day about a month ago, but have always ate right. I however, do not eat red meat but once a month, as I never cared for it.
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I realize that may not have been clear after re-reading my post but that's exactly the point I was trying to make. If you hit a wall after only one year, I dont think training has much to do with it. Your diet is definitely flawed.
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Yes! It has been for a while. I'm trying to borrow a diet from the carb cutting area in the diet section. I'm hoping this works. I'll stick to whatever I need to do to attain my goals by the deadline.
What do you recommend after my weight is achieved as far as AAS go? Please give me some opinions on injections and oral, not a combo, but the two options. While I'm against injections, most people here swear by them, and some of my buddies do them too. Also what PCT do you recommend with each? I assume there are no good AAS that have little side effects on the male that make good sense? That would be too perfect of a world..correct?
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You can't borrow a diet. You can use the diet for ideas as to how to lay out your diet but you need to start by finding your BMR. After that you can use a diet sample and change the amounts according to your BMR.
There is risk involved in using any AAS and if I lifted what you say you do naturally then I doubt I would even use AAS. You need at least one solid month in learning how to diet before you can even consider AAS. You will probably acheive all your goals naturally with just a good diet. Then if your still bent on doing it, get real frendly with needles or don't touch the stuff...ever. Needles are not really an option they are the only option imo.
'everything louder than everything else'
in plifting its everything to do with it, unless he started something completely crazy diff with his diet, id err towards training too hard
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Powerlifting...but looking to get cut up and build lean solid muscle.
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Cool.
Your buddy says Dbol and lot of powerlifters are fans of this compound for the added strength is gives them.
If you are not ready to pin yourself really you are not ready to to cycle. But in saying that, you may get what you want from a Var cycle and to answer your first question, it is as far as orals go it is a very safe cycle.
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Whoa nelly!
I just read the rest of the shit on this thread....you don't care about your squat? But you are powerlifting?
I have two posts on this thread and I would like my time back thanks.
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Whoa nelly!
I just read the rest of the shit on this thread....you don't care about your squat? But you are powerlifting?
I have 3 posts on this thread and I would like my time back thanks.
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The reason my trainer has not had me squat is because I'm running extensively and swimming daily too. I am working my legs with my strength conditioning instructor. I started doing squats, but My strength coach is buring out my legs. Now I hate them because every time we go to do them, I am weaker. My strength coach however, would do squats with me, but they are not my current goal because I'm looking to be 65% strength and 35% strength conditioning. I started off however with IPA goals..in mind, and am still within that realm to compete if I want to now. I'm not overtrained, I know what that is, my buddy is WAY overtrained from using bands on stupid shit! I'd say, I'm being trained more like a football player, which I'm not sure is where i want to be either.
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I look into it. Thanks...
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That' where the problem is as well. My strength conditioning trainer who was a former black ops drill sgt in the Army says I'm around 17% and my strength trainer who is a world powerlifting champion says I'm about 14%. It's so FU'ed. My powerlifting trainer said I should go on D-bol to cut fat via it protein synthesis.
"Even sexier than Siggy"
Im guessing the boys on here know a lot more about AAS than your trainer. This is not meant as an insult, just the vet's on here are "experts".
Dbol is not a miracle drug and I think you will be quite dissapointed in the end result doing it his way. You may look leaner cause your muscles will grow and swell with water, strength will go up and you will be bloated, but happy with progress. Then when you come off, you will piss away 90% of it and realise whata waste of time it was on top of possibly doing damage to your liver etc.
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How about Winny? I can get anything on the market... My buddies give test to themselves.. etc.. My SEAL buddies do a Winny / Equipoise stack...whcih seems to be working well.
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What exactly is a "black ops drill sgt"?
I think your trainer(s) are blowing smoke up your ass, dude.
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No, they are not. I'm in the teams, and my one trainer is a former drill instructor for Army SF. I know for a fact they are both real, one has several books published about his powerlifting career and the other is well respected in the military.
What exactly is a "black ops drill sgt"?
I think your trainer(s) are blowing smoke up your ass, dude.
'everything louder than everything else'
but you cant train at his pace, hence your going stale/plateauing. you cant expect to train as intensely as a world champ, i wouldnt even come near his intensity and ive done it for 17yrs
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Makes sense..
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My first priority is to shred fat very quickly. I than want to build lean solid muscle.
My Dead lift is 515
My Bench is 420
and my Squat is 395
I am in excellent conditioning cardio wise and generally run in a 180-200 heart rate for over 2 hours while working with my strength conditioning trainer. I just need a boost of something that will help me to shred the fat... so I can than focus on building lean solid muscle.
"Even sexier than Siggy"
I wont take shots at your trainers, they sound very well respected in their acheivements and knowledge. But keep in mind that with titles won and books published, we dont know the underlying facts, like what their vital organs look like after doing things their way for years.
Arnold dominated bodybuilding and is probably the biggest name in the sport even now, has published books that have sold 10's of millions of copies.
He is now the reipient of a quadruple heart bypass?
My point is, theres a differnce between doing something for 30 years and doing it right for the same amount of time. The negatives are sometimes the trade off for the fame and acheivments, but for the rest of us who dont get to be #1, it can just end up in damage. (worst case scenario of course, doing it right can significantly avoid problems)
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with you here Nooo.. wtf?What exactly is a "black ops drill sgt"?
I think your trainer(s) are blowing smoke up your ass, dude.
a SF instructor perhaps, maybe a Ranger Instructor, Delta are pulled from other units and don't have a "drill Sgt".. not much knowledge about Seals but a "black ops" Drill SGT? if your doing anything "black ops" you are already trained son_ you don't need a Drill.. i am also calling bullshit..
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Delta I'm pretty sure we discussed but I'm not clear to what involvement.. I know for a fact he mentioned it. He was a former Airborne Ranger and than GB in Vietnam. That's about all I know of that part of his career. He later became an a drill sgt due to injuries and later and instructor. I said he was a drill sgt..for potential black ops.. and eventually a physical trainer to them once accepted. I did not find this forum to need to be a life's biography to my trainers conquests. I simply stopped by for answers. I gave a brief description of his former professional life, even I do not know much about it, nor do I care to either. I'm not Army nor do I want to be.
Last edited by Chance1826; 03-26-2010 at 11:55 AM.
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Maybe this is the "black ops drill sgt"
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