Need Advice... Starting TRT

[flatscat]

although worth trying FIRST...losing weight/fat before going on trt...

....i went from 290lbs to 250lbs before i checked my t levels and thats when i discovered it and i was mid to high 200's so the 40lbs that i lost i dont know if my test levels could have been lower when i was 290 but i had a hit a brick wall at 250 but the addition of trt was INDEED wut i needed....so maybe it was good i lost the 40lbs first, i dunno?

I hear ya JP. Some need it to get started. I just think before he goes on this rollercoaster (it will be one at least to start) he owes it to himself to try and raise his t before he sticks a needle into his arse. But, you have a point.

It is all in how much motivation he has to accomplish his goals. I didn't think I had it to start with, but looking back, I prolly could have and wished I would have.

[bowers32]

Thanks guys.... yes believe me I am all to well aware of diet exercise.

I work out with weights about 4 times a week and do cardio afterwards.

No doubt my BF is a result of lifestyle.. no easy fix and am not looking for one... if I was I would go on clen or something like that....

But TRT also brings some other things I am looking for... increased energy, better libido etc....I love to work out.. love lifting heavy weights... don't mind cardio at all either... not eating as well as I should but not as bad as the bf% looks either. I have seen an incredible slowdown in my metabolism in the last three years... I would say alarming.

I am determined to get better and feel better... not going out without a fight.

I am not intersted in drugs for the heck of it... I have never done anything like this at all... this is a huge leap for me.

The other thing that concerns me is that in a test I took in 09 my T levels were in the 400's and now they are in the 300's.... and the IGF is on the low end and the free test is on the low end

So no, I am not in the gutter on levels and a regular MD probably wouldn't put me on this. And the thought of sticking myself twice a week is really ****ing with me....

Frankly as one of the posters said perhaps if nothing else a placebo affect will take place and with all the positive things it will do, maybe I will feel better and more determined and all the other areas will improve as well (diet, exercise)

So want to make sure everyone knows I am not doing this loosely nor without pause or caution and I am still on the fence on whether or not to do it anyway.

Thanks again for all the feedback

[zaggahamma]

Thanks guys.... yes believe me I am all to well aware of diet exercise.

I work out with weights about 4 times a week and do cardio afterwards.

No doubt my BF is a result of lifestyle.. no easy fix and am not looking for one... if I was I would go on clen or something like that....

But TRT also brings some other things I am looking for... increased energy, better libido etc....I love to work out.. love lifting heavy weights... don't mind cardio at all either... not eating as well as I should but not as bad as the bf% looks either. I have seen an incredible slowdown in my metabolism in the last three years... I would say alarming.

I am determined to get better and feel better... not going out without a fight.

I am not intersted in drugs for the heck of it... I have never done anything like this at all... this is a huge leap for me.

The other thing that concerns me is that in a test I took in 09 my T levels were in the 400's and now they are in the 300's.... and the IGF is on the low end and the free test is on the low end

So no, I am not in the gutter on levels and a regular MD probably wouldn't put me on this. And the thought of sticking myself twice a week is really ****ing with me....

Frankly as one of the posters said perhaps if nothing else a placebo affect will take place and with all the positive things it will do, maybe I will feel better and more determined and all the other areas will improve as well (diet, exercise)

So want to make sure everyone knows I am not doing this loosely nor without pause or caution and I am still on the fence on whether or not to do it anyway.

Thanks again for all the feedback

bowers...you have an excellent attitude and i think youre gonna be another success story...please keep us posted and there will always be someone on here to offer help

[bowers32]

Thanks very much my friend.... still don't know what I am going to do...

From what I have been told... TRT will make me feel better and HGH will help with body composition.... of course HGH is much more expensive and you stick most everyday, which isn't something I would look forward to.

I may research HGH some and see what the side affect are..... the biggest obstacle I have to having quality workouts and cardio are small injuries to tendons, ligaments, joints etc... I can never get on track in a good routine.... cause as soon as I do, then something else starts hurting.... and I have been told HGH would be best to counter that.

[zaggahamma]

Thanks very much my friend.... still don't know what I am going to do...

From what I have been told... TRT will make me feel better and HGH will help with body composition.... of course HGH is much more expensive and you stick most everyday, which isn't something I would look forward to.

I may research HGH some and see what the side affect are..... the biggest obstacle I have to having quality workouts and cardio are small injuries to tendons, ligaments, joints etc... I can never get on track in a good routine.... cause as soon as I do, then something else starts hurting.... and I have been told HGH would be best to counter that.

if you can afford it from here out....do it...i would...i would keep my hormones at optimal levels the best i could...just from being on test replacement my skin, nails, hair is healthier looking grows faster....

just my .02

[Epic Ed]

Your situation is similar to mine. About the same weight and body fat. I'm 42. Just started TRT in February and found this site when doing my research.

You might want to ask the doc about the propionate. I know it's a different ester than the cyp, but I've never heard of a doc scripting both cyp and prop for TRT. Nearly everything I've read indicates a good starting dose for most people is going to be 100mg EW and the check levels after 3 months, then adjust accordingly. The 300mg combined seems like a high dose to use for a baseline. I'm also not taking any AI's and I'm not concerned about it at the doses I'm taking. He might have recommended them for you because of the dose he's scripting.

Good luck with your treatment. I'm five weeks into it and feel quite a bit better. My work outs have definitely improved and that started giving me some positive momentum. Just last week I got my diet act together and I'm hoping the lbs start to drop off consistently. I'd love to get back under 200 lbs, and who knows -- my test levels might be fine at that point. I'm sure it will help yours.

[zaggahamma]

Your situation is similar to mine. About the same weight and body fat. I'm 42. Just started TRT in February and found this site when doing my research.

You might want to ask the doc about the propionate. I know it's a different ester than the cyp, but I've never heard of a doc scripting both cyp and prop for TRT. Nearly everything I've read indicates a good starting dose for most people is going to be 100mg EW and the check levels after 3 months, then adjust accordingly. The 300mg combined seems like a high dose to use for a baseline. I'm also not taking any AI's and I'm not concerned about it at the doses I'm taking. He might have recommended them for you because of the dose he's scripting.

Good luck with your treatment. I'm five weeks into it and feel quite a bit better. My work outs have definitely improved and that started giving me some positive momentum. Just last week I got my diet act together and I'm hoping the lbs start to drop off consistently. I'd love to get back under 200 lbs, and who knows -- my test levels might be fine at that point. I'm sure it will help yours.

good to hear bro

[zaggahamma]

I hear ya JP. Some need it to get started. I just think before he goes on this rollercoaster (it will be one at least to start) he owes it to himself to try and raise his t before he sticks a needle into his arse. But, you have a point.

It is all in how much motivation he has to accomplish his goals. I didn't think I had it to start with, but looking back, I prolly could have and wished I would have.

Yes, totally agree....it is always an individual situation and thats why sometimes i like to share what i've personally experienced and also what i've seen others post