Disgusting Weekend

[RoadToRecovery]

I would be more worried that you broke mentally. Personally I could never ever cheat on a diet. Not trying to put anyone who does down but I could never stand on stage knowing I didnt do everything I was supposed to do.

Well that is the mindset of a competitor which is why Im sure you are successful at your shows. Also, I mentioned "if your not competing" to put that disclaimer out there.

[FireGuy]

Well that is the mindset of a competitor which is why Im sure you are successful at your shows. Also, I mentioned "if your not competing" to put that disclaimer out there.

That's a good point and one of the aspects I really enjoy about competing...you get an off season. I will say I would have no desire to contest diet without a contest in sight. My bad for comparing apples to oranges.

[Damienm05]

Well, hold on here. Time for me to play devil's advocate.

Just because you're not prepping for a contest, doesn't mean you shouldn't be hardcore about your diet. If your goal is to lose 2% bf over the course of a year, that's one thing. But if it's to lose the same 2% bf in 6-8 weeks before going to the beach and spending a week with no shirt, you should not be cheating. Will the consequences be as dire as if you cheated before a show? No. Will cheating add weeks to how long it takes to achieve a goal? Yes. Will you feel like sh*t for a few days? Yes.

I'm sorry but I can't read these posts anymore and reassure people that it's OK to eat this way. Unless you are on a very casual diet, you're doing yourself a huge disservice and at very least, should hop on the treadmill for an hour or two at the end of the day.

I'm speaking from experience. I used to cheat occasionally. I used to even justify it as a re-feed and then pontificate, without any scientific evidence, about how my body "needed it". Don't make excuses, don't post your cheats looking for reassurance, just get on the treadmill. Cheating is simply not worth the mental agony when you have a specific goal and time-frame to achieve it. Period.

[FireGuy]

Well, hold on here. Time for me to play devil's advocate.

Just because you're not prepping for a contest, doesn't mean you shouldn't be hardcore about your diet. If your goal is to lose 2% bf over the course of a year, that's one thing. But if it's to lose the same 2% bf in 6-8 weeks before going to the beach and spending a week with no shirt, you should not be cheating. Will the consequences be as dire as if you cheated before a show? No. Will cheating add weeks to how long it takes to achieve a goal? Yes. Will you feel like sh*t for a few days? Yes.

I'm sorry but I can't read these posts anymore and reassure people that it's OK to eat this way. Unless you are on a very casual diet, you're doing yourself a huge disservice and at very least, should hop on the treadmill for an hour or two at the end of the day.

I'm speaking from experience. I used to cheat occasionally. I used to even justify it as a re-feed and then pontificate, without any scientific evidence, about how my body "needed it". Don't make excuses, don't post your cheats looking for reassurance, just get on the treadmill. Cheating is simply not worth the mental agony when you have a specific goal and time-frame to achieve it. Period.

I gotta agree with this statement 100% as well.

[RoadToRecovery]

I gotta agree with this statement 100% as well.

The main reason why I disagree is because while he may bring up agreeable points, it still only coincides with personal opinion and preference.
I will contradict myself here and agree with one portion of the post so I cant say I completely disagree.

Just because you're not prepping for a contest, doesn't mean you shouldn't be hardcore about your diet.

Agreeable but I will state that this lies on personal preference. Will the subtraction of a cheat day from your diet get you to your goals? Absolutely.
But you cannot say that cheat days do more damage than good.

If you would like, I have a testimonial from one of my clients with a before and after picture that I can show you. He had a cheat meal once every saturday night, and ate a bit loose the day following. PM me if you would like to see it.

Unless you are prepping for a show, cheat days are by far acceptable.

[RoadToRecovery]

Well, hold on here. Time for me to play devil's advocate.

Just because you're not prepping for a contest, doesn't mean you shouldn't be hardcore about your diet. If your goal is to lose 2% bf over the course of a year, that's one thing. But if it's to lose the same 2% bf in 6-8 weeks before going to the beach and spending a week with no shirt, you should not be cheating. Will the consequences be as dire as if you cheated before a show? No. Will cheating add weeks to how long it takes to achieve a goal? Yes. Will you feel like sh*t for a few days? Yes.

I'm sorry but I can't read these posts anymore and reassure people that it's OK to eat this way. Unless you are on a very casual diet, you're doing yourself a huge disservice and at very least, should hop on the treadmill for an hour or two at the end of the day.

I'm speaking from experience. I used to cheat occasionally. I used to even justify it as a re-feed and then pontificate, without any scientific evidence, about how my body "needed it". Don't make excuses, don't post your cheats looking for reassurance, just get on the treadmill. Cheating is simply not worth the mental agony when you have a specific goal and time-frame to achieve it. Period.

Well obviously I completely disagree with this post. I think you are taking certain things a bit out of context and being a bit dramatic.

Cheating will not only help you physically, but mentally as well. No one dove into specifics about what they considered what cheating was nor did anyone clarify the difference between cheating and binging.

Cheating will not add weeks onto ETA of your goals. Thats just ridiculous. If you follow a structured diet, adding a fluctuation in caloric intake is actually proven beneficial.

There is a difference between having a structured meal plan and eating healthy.

[Damienm05]

No one dove into specifics about what they considered what cheating was nor did anyone clarify the difference between cheating and binging.

You're right. I'm not talking about one cheat meal or a properly structured carbohydrate re-feed. I was referring to a whole day of eating the wrong foods in heavy portions wherein the total calories are high. It will be a set-back. Plain and simple.

[RoadToRecovery]

You're right. I'm not talking about one cheat meal or a properly structured carbohydrate re-feed. I was referring to a whole day of eating the wrong foods in heavy portions wherein the total calories are high. It will be a set-back. Plain and simple.

So now looking at gbrices original post, would you say that set him back?

[Damienm05]

So now looking at gbrices original post, would you say that set him back?

Absolutely. In addition to his normal BB meals, those foods would have put his total cals way over the top. It definitely set him back. Not by weeks or months but it certainly had to negate a few days of hard work.