To Be a Pro

[taiboxa]

lol, you all make me laugh..
its not ABOUT AAS
its about DIET
and 2000mg test/wk?
i have taken more then that in a day.. but seriously do any of you know any pros? or seen their actual cycles?

[gymnerd]

lol, you all make me laugh..
its not ABOUT AAS
its about DIET
and 2000mg test/wk?
i have taken more then that in a day.. but seriously do any of you know any pros? or seen their actual cycles?

Im pretty freindly with a national guy and what he posts and what he runs are completely different 2g test and 1g tren on top of other drugs along with 10-20iu hgh and insulin in huge amounts.

There is no doubt that diet is key as well as training but drug use is huge no questiuon about it.

Put it this way if me and you had similar genetics and at that level our diet was 100% like you would expect and I was out dosing you would that not be the difference maker? He asked about drug use specificly and I can guarntee you not one guy on the olympia stage runs small cycles.

[c-Z]

lol, you all make me laugh..
its not ABOUT AAS
its about DIET
and 2000mg test/wk?
i have taken more then that in a day.. but seriously do any of you know any pros? or seen their actual cycles?

Calling your bluff on 2000mgs of test in a day. Sounds like a crock of sh*t too me. But then again if not then congratulations you just won idiot of the year award. Because at one moment you mention its about diet yet your taking 2000mg in a day..... Smart..........

Pros know how to eat. They know how to diet. So yes steroids play a big role. If they didn't use AAS they wouldn't be as big as they are my friend. And that is no thought. That is a proven fact. Unless you can show me someone as big as these guys natural... Then YES aas is extremely important in making them what they are.

However diet is extremely important. And fireguy is a great example. Dude looks better than guys that are using AAS.

[Kdub]

lol, you all make me laugh..
its not ABOUT AAS
its about DIET
and 2000mg test/wk?
i have taken more then that in a day.. but seriously do any of you know any pros? or seen their actual cycles?

I second this.

In the early 90's when Paul Dillet came to Aussie for guest posing he asked for 10 Sust a day while he was there. 2500 mg per day.

When Mike Matarazzo came down under he used 2, 200 ml bladders (Coopers Banrot) of Cyp at 75mg/ml. He finished them both and gave them back empty. We was there for 10 days. That is 40 ml per day or 3000 mg per day.

But all that crank is pointless when you don't eat.

I trained with a buddy of Ronnie's in 96 down under. When Ronnie came he never went out, just ate all day. I quickly understood what it meant to be a pro.

What drugs you can get
Are the drugs real
How much can you afford
How much food can you eat and digest and absorb
How well do you respond to the drugs as you will not come off for 10 years
How disciplined are you with your meals
How quickly you can find the balance between drugs, food and training to maximize your results

Consistency in eating is a major factor. I was told the reason why the guys at the top are at the top is also because they haven't missed a meal in 4 years... for example.

I had a look at a list of compounds guys were taking and they were taking everything they could get their hands on. It was all thrown into the pot and the diet is what sorted the gains out.

Many guys in Aussie who had potential were moving to England. Why? Too hot to eat in Aussie and too hot to train with the humidity. England is also a Common Wealth country and the cool weather brings the appetite back.

[BJJ]

I second this.

In the early 90's when Paul Dillet came to Aussie for guest posing he asked for 10 Sust a day while he was there. 2500 mg per day.

When Mike Matarazzo came down under he used 2, 200 ml bladders (Coopers Banrot) of Cyp at 75mg/ml. He finished them both and gave them back empty. We was there for 10 days. That is 40 ml per day or 3000 mg per day.

But all that crank is pointless when you don't eat.

I trained with a buddy of Ronnie's in 96 down under. When Ronnie came he never went out, just ate all day. I quickly understood what it meant to be a pro.

What drugs you can get
Are the drugs real
How much can you afford
How much food can you eat and digest and absorb
How well do you respond to the drugs as you will not come off for 10 years
How disciplined are you with your meals
How quickly you can find the balance between drugs, food and training to maximize your results

Consistency in eating is a major factor. I was told the reason why the guys at the top are at the top is also because they haven't missed a meal in 4 years... for example.

I had a look at a list of compounds guys were taking and they were taking everything they could get their hands on. It was all thrown into the pot and the diet is what sorted the gains out.

Many guys in Aussie who had potential were moving to England. Why? Too hot to eat in Aussie and too hot to train with the humidity. England is also a Common Wealth country and the cool weather brings the appetite back.

You meant rainy!

[Kdub]

You meant rainy!

Yes! I used to live in Belgium and the daily rain was great for training.

I am now in the tropics, which is worse than Australia and if I could have eaten more food I would have made better gains this recent cycle.

[Andrew92]

''Kdub'' Holy shit No wounder why Mike Matarazzo had a Heart Attack. I saw a video of him saying how he use to destroy his body in the hotel room the night before the Competition.

[Kdub]

''Kdub'' Holy shit No wounder why Mike Matarazzo had a Heart Attack. I saw a video of him saying how he use to destroy his body in the hotel room the night before the Competition.

Yeah, I don't know what Arnold took but it sure as heck wasn't 15,000 mg of test a week and he still looked way better than the pros today. I read he didn't even use test - none of them did back then.

I guess he was a one-off and the rest of the world is still playing catch up.

The guys couldn't believe it when Mike gave back two empty 200 ml bladders. He must have been injecting everywhere especially the back.

[Okinawa_Power]

lol, you all make me laugh..
its not ABOUT AAS
its about DIET
and 2000mg test/wk?
i have taken more then that in a day.. but seriously do any of you know any pros? or seen their actual cycles?

Yes I know a IFBB pro!!! Lots of MuscleTech supplements......and gummi bears......and twinkes.......