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[Injected21]

Monday: Arms- Bis / Tris / Abs/ Forearms
Tuesday: Chest/ Abs/ Cardio
Wednesday: Back / Shoulders/ Abs/
Thurs: Legs
Friday: Arms- Bis / Tris / Abs/ Forearms
Saturday: Chest/ Abs/ Cardio
Sun: Back / Shoulders/ Abs/

and I run a mile every day.

also, I always try to keep my muscles guessing with my workouts

just ate a nice 16oz steak and potatoes =D !

ahhhh now we know why you are at that weight. Please read http://www.steroid.com/workout.php

First of all do you realize you use your triceps when you do most of your chest workouts?

Since you are doing arms on day 1 you cant train your chest on day 2.

Secondly have you heard of rest? You should only train every muscle group once every 8 days. Your muscles grow when your resting, not in the gym!

And why is it you do abs every single day? I'm beginning to wonder who taught you how to workout and set up your splits. I think your first day in the gym was when you shot up aas for the first time. I dont mean to flame but your a clown, dont expect anyone to support you when you walk into something serious with not having done any research at all! Your a kid that wants to be in the trend of getting big by doing AAS but without putting any time into learning how train and eat properly.

[EKFitness]

ahhhh now we know why you are at that weight. Please read http://www.steroid.com/workout.php

First of all do you realize you use your triceps when you do most of your chest workouts?

Since you are doing arms on day 1 you cant train your chest on day 2.

Secondly have you heard of rest? You should only train every muscle group once every 8 days. Your muscles grow when your resting, not in the gym!

And why is it you do abs every single day? I'm beginning to wonder who taught you how to workout and set up your splits. I think your first day in the gym was when you shot up aas for the first time. I dont mean to flame but your a clown, dont expect anyone to support you when you walk into something serious with not having done any research at all! Your a kid that wants to be in the trend of getting big by doing AAS but without putting any time into learning how train and eat properly.

so you're telling me i shouldn't be in the gym 6 out of 7 days of the week on aas?

[EKFitness]

also this leaves out forearms..

[Injected21]

so you're telling me i shouldn't be in the gym 6 out of 7 days of the week on aas?

No! You should train every other day. Train every set till muscle failure, workout every muscle every 8 days like the link says that i posted.

Forearms arent really important to focus on since they get trained from other muscle groups.

Your schedule should look something like this:

Mon: Chest, Biceps
tues: off
Wed: Legs
thurs: off
Fri: Shoulders, Triceps
Satff
Sun: Back, Traps
Mon: off

On your off days you could stick to cardio or do some core workouts.
Make sure you complete every set to muscle failure
Meaning you lift every set up until it is impossible to lift another rep. It is best to have a workout partner to spot you every set. Please read that link i posted it goes into anabolic workouts in great detail.

[EKFitness]

now i have these drawn up

M: Bi Tri
T: Off
W: Chest
Th:Back
Fri:Shoulder
Sat:Legs
Sun: Bi tri
M: off

M: Chest, biceps
T: OFF
W: Thighs
Th: OFF:
Fri: Shoulder, triceps
Sat: OFF
Sun: Back. calves
M: OFF

Mon: Chest, Biceps
tues: off
Wed: Legs
thurs: off
Fri: Shoulders, Triceps
Sat: off
Sun: Back, Traps
Mon: off

[EKFitness]

i want to switch up my routine bi-weekly or so to keep my muscles guessing, though.

Day 1

Bicep Workout: Your biceps workout should consist of exercises such as,

* Bicep Curls with a barbell, dumbbells and machine.
* Bicep Concentration
* Preacher Curls with barbell and dumbbells.
* Incline Dumbbell Curls
* Hammer Curls

Day 2

Triceps Workout: Triceps can be developed with the help of exercises like,

* Triceps Dumbbell Extensions
* Lying Barbell Extensions
* Triceps Presses
* Double Bar Triceps Dips

Day 3

Chest Workout: For the growth and development of chest muscles, here are some exercises which will prove useful.

* Bench Press
* Peck Deck Flies
* Dumbbell Bench Press
* Decline Bench Press (Barbell bench press on a decline bench)
* Incline Bench Press (Barbell bench press on an incline bench)

Day 4

Shoulder Workout: For shoulders you can perform exercises such as,

* Shoulder Press (Barbell and Dumbbell)
* Front Lateral Raises
* Side Lateral Raises
* Reverse Peck Deck

Day 5

Back Workout: Back should also be given equal importance in the workout routine. Here are some useful back exercises

* Deadlifts
* Pulls Ups
* Seated Pulley Rows
* Lat Pull downs

Day 6

Leg Workout: Legs are often overlooked by many fitness lovers. Some leg workouts that can develop your leg and calf muscles are given below.

* Hack Squats (Machine)
* Barbell Hack Squats (Free Weight)
* Sit Ups
* Stretches
* Calf Raises

Towards the end of all the workouts, do some exercises to develop the abs and wrist muscles.

Day 7

Exercising on day 7 is optional. You can either not exercise and give some rest to your muscles or you can indulge yourself into aerobic exercises, yoga or long cycling.


also found this. seems to be pretty basic and easily changeable.

[Injected21]

i want to switch up my routine bi-weekly or so to keep my muscles guessing, though.

Day 1

Bicep Workout: Your biceps workout should consist of exercises such as,

* Bicep Curls with a barbell, dumbbells and machine.
* Bicep Concentration
* Preacher Curls with barbell and dumbbells.
* Incline Dumbbell Curls
* Hammer Curls

Day 2

Triceps Workout: Triceps can be developed with the help of exercises like,

* Triceps Dumbbell Extensions
* Lying Barbell Extensions
* Triceps Presses
* Double Bar Triceps Dips

Day 3

Chest Workout: For the growth and development of chest muscles, here are some exercises which will prove useful.

* Bench Press
* Peck Deck Flies
* Dumbbell Bench Press
* Decline Bench Press (Barbell bench press on a decline bench)
* Incline Bench Press (Barbell bench press on an incline bench)

Day 4

Shoulder Workout: For shoulders you can perform exercises such as,

* Shoulder Press (Barbell and Dumbbell)
* Front Lateral Raises
* Side Lateral Raises
* Reverse Peck Deck

Day 5

Back Workout: Back should also be given equal importance in the workout routine. Here are some useful back exercises

* Deadlifts
* Pulls Ups
* Seated Pulley Rows
* Lat Pull downs

Day 6

Leg Workout: Legs are often overlooked by many fitness lovers. Some leg workouts that can develop your leg and calf muscles are given below.

* Hack Squats (Machine)
* Barbell Hack Squats (Free Weight)
* Sit Ups
* Stretches
* Calf Raises

Towards the end of all the workouts, do some exercises to develop the abs and wrist muscles.

Day 7

Exercising on day 7 is optional. You can either not exercise and give some rest to your muscles or you can indulge yourself into aerobic exercises, yoga or long cycling.


also found this. seems to be pretty basic and easily changeable.

Hmmmm well this schedule looks to be wasteful of time. Your only going to be in the gym for 30 minutes at a time max. Why not knock out 2 at once then give your body a rest day. Your body grows better when you give a day of rest after training. This workout looks like it was designed for a tennis player not for mass. Looks like your not listening to anything i tell you so i give up, i forgot you were the expert. Good luck

[RoadToRecovery]

Hmmmm well this schedule looks to be wasteful of time. Your only going to be in the gym for 30 minutes at a time max. Why not knock out 2 at once then give your body a rest day. Your body grows better when you give a day of rest after training. This workout looks like it was designed for a tennis player not for mass. Looks like your not listening to anything i tell you so i give up, i forgot you were the expert. Good luck

I completely disagree with this statement in its entirety. It would do him good to not listen to you.

[EKFitness]

beginning of week 3, slight tenderness in nipples, kinda sensitive, not puffy though.

help?

[EKFitness]

trainer suggested tamoxifen anti-estrogen.

[EKFitness]

starting a deka750 ph month cycle with "arimadex" and clomid pct.

just lookin to lose a little bf and keep that bulk going!

[bigslick7878]

starting a deka750 ph month cycle with "arimadex" and clomid pct.

just lookin to lose a little bf and keep that bulk going!

What happened to taking a year off, blah blah blah???

Did you lose a lot of that weight in the end?

A PH cycle a month after PCT is a fantastic idea, this time just skip the PCT altogether and go straight to another cycle. If you really push it maybe you can squeeze 3 of them in 7 months or so.

[Dougiefresh7707]

No! You should train every other day. Train every set till muscle failure, workout every muscle every 8 days like the link says that i posted.

Forearms arent really important to focus on since they get trained from other muscle groups.

Your schedule should look something like this:

Mon: Chest, Biceps
tues: off
Wed: Legs
thurs: off
Fri: Shoulders, Triceps
Satff
Sun: Back, Traps
Mon: off

On your off days you could stick to cardio or do some core workouts.
Make sure you complete every set to muscle failure
Meaning you lift every set up until it is impossible to lift another rep. It is best to have a workout partner to spot you every set. Please read that link i posted it goes into anabolic workouts in great detail.

Only problem with that there is no abdominal in there also what about running on off days yes or no In your opinion?

[RoadToRecovery]

ahhhh now we know why you are at that weight. Please read http://www.steroid.com/workout.php

First of all do you realize you use your triceps when you do most of your chest workouts?

Since you are doing arms on day 1 you cant train your chest on day 2.

Secondly have you heard of rest? You should only train every muscle group once every 8 days. Your muscles grow when your resting, not in the gym!

And why is it you do abs every single day? I'm beginning to wonder who taught you how to workout and set up your splits. I think your first day in the gym was when you shot up aas for the first time. I dont mean to flame but your a clown, dont expect anyone to support you when you walk into something serious with not having done any research at all! Your a kid that wants to be in the trend of getting big by doing AAS but without putting any time into learning how train and eat properly.

Would you believe that I didnt agree with any of this either (bold)? You are really good at parroting information. Do you know the science behind any of the advise you so anxiously give out?

[Injected21]

Would you believe that I didnt agree with any of this either (bold)? You are really good at parroting information. Do you know the science behind any of the advise you so anxiously give out?

Haha wow. Ok well mr. bigshot personal trainer then explain to me how it is efficient to workout your arms on day 1 then proceed to chest on day 2. I want to know the "science" Bill Nye

[RoadToRecovery]

Haha wow. Ok well mr. bigshot personal trainer then explain to me how it is efficient to workout your arms on day 1 then proceed to chest on day 2. I want to know the "science" Bill Nye

How is it not? Tell me, if you replenish your glycogen and do not experience DOMS why would it be inefficient? Especially being on an AAS compound?

Its one thing to establish a reasonable argument, its another to be a wise ass lacking a rebuttal.

[ghettoboyd]

How is it not? Tell me, if you replenish your glycogen and do not experience DOMS why would it be inefficient? Especially being on an AAS compound?

cus if you worked out your tri hard enough for growth then your stregth in your chest exersises should be compromised leaving your workout less than optimal imho.....

[RoadToRecovery]

cus if you worked out your tri hard enough for growth then your stregth in your chest exersises should be compromised leaving your workout less than optimal imho.....

Ok well to keep things in perspective, No matter what kind of workout you are doing, if your arms are involved you are working them out. In the descent of a chin up, you are working out your tricep isometrically. If you do a shoulder press, you are working your tricep. If you do a deadlift, you are working your triceps. Same goes for all secondary muscles.

I see a trend of people who give advice to people like they are training for the Olympics or an IFBB competition.

One of the many brilliant things injected said was

Make sure you complete every set to muscle failure

That is great advice. But what the hell does that mean? If the advice is partially right it is 100% wrong. That line right there could mean anything.

This along with most of the stuff he has said holds no water and he has no explanation for it. Common sense doesnt always prevail with the human body.

[Injected21]

How is it not? Tell me, if you replenish your glycogen and do not experience DOMS why would it be inefficient? Especially being on an AAS compound?

Its one thing to establish a reasonable argument, its another to be a wise ass lacking a rebuttal.

Your a funny little guy. If you work out triceps on day 1 and are 100% the next day you definitely arent training right I dont care what compound you are on. When i hit a muscle group in the gym its sore for 6+ days, you sound like someone who has read a bunch of anatomy books but has never hit the gym yourself. I am really curious as to what your stats are, and if you post something ridiculous like 220 Lbs 8% bf I would really like to see that backed up with some pictures.

Ok well to keep things in perspective, No matter what kind of workout you are doing, if your arms are involved you are working them out. In the descent of a chin up, you are working out your tricep isometrically. If you do a shoulder press, you are working your tricep. If you do a deadlift, you are working your triceps. Same goes for all secondary muscles.

I see a trend of people who give advice to people like they are training for the Olympics or an IFBB competition.

One of the many brilliant things injected said was


That is great advice. But what the hell does that mean? If the advice is partially right it is 100% wrong. That line right there could mean anything.

This along with most of the stuff he has said holds no water and he has no explanation for it. Common sense doesnt always prevail with the human body.

Looks like you need to read http://www.steroid.com/workout.php

But you will most likely say thats wrong because you think your a doctor

We are all wrong and you are right!

You work your arms with every lift???? No way!!!!!! Thanks for pointing that out cause i didnt know that!

It is because of that, that you split your workouts out so that your not working out with fatigued muscles.

I am done with this convo, it is apparent that you are tool and arguing with you is a complete waste of my time.