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    Thanks guys, i can't tell you how much i appreciate the feedback... seriously.

    -I did not post this yesterday, maybe it was my piece if shit friend trying to figure out what the **** he just put me on..

    Anyway,

    -Age:21
    Weight:190lbs
    Height: 5'10"
    Body Fat: 8-12% (really not sure)
    Cycle Experience: None whatsoever
    Workout XP: 3 years of crossfit, olympic weightlifting, running. (no intentions for bodybuilding. I'm just looking for strength, speed, and maybe some cutting.)
    Diet: Zone / Paleo

    Guys I really appreciate this advice and I want to make this thing right. What would you suggest for my next move? Should I start over completely or can I just adapt to a more suitable cycle from where I'm at?

    *Also... I took the dose last night and when I woke up in the morning I had noticeable testicular atrophy. I knew that was a potential side effect but I didn't foresee it manifesting itself so quickly. What steps should I take in regard to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313frog View Post
    Thanks guys, i can't tell you how much i appreciate the feedback... seriously.

    -I did not post this yesterday, maybe it was my piece if shit friend trying to figure out what the **** he just put me on..

    Anyway,

    -Age:21
    Weight:190lbs
    Height: 5'10"
    Body Fat: 8-12% (really not sure)
    Cycle Experience: None whatsoever
    Workout XP: 3 years of crossfit, olympic weightlifting, running. (no intentions for bodybuilding. I'm just looking for strength, speed, and maybe some cutting.)
    Diet: Zone / Paleo

    Guys I really appreciate this advice and I want to make this thing right. What would you suggest for my next move? Should I start over completely or can I just adapt to a more suitable cycle from where I'm at?

    *Also... I took the dose last night and when I woke up in the morning I had noticeable testicular atrophy. I knew that was a potential side effect but I didn't foresee it manifesting itself so quickly. What steps should I take in regard to this?
    It's 100% placebo effect, it's in your head. IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen yet.

    STOP now......You need to read a lot more in the sticky notes above on why you should not be doing ANY aas yet. Trust me there are to many side effects at your age and you have to much natural test to be screwing it up for the rest of your life.

    you can make the same gains with a good diet and working out expect you wont have any of the MANY side effects and life lone issues suck as no libido, no sex drive, cant get your dick up. REALLY... That's only the start.

    Before doing any more dong just get scared but read and keep reading and why it's best to wait a few more years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    It's 100% placebo effect, it's in your head. IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen yet.

    STOP now......You need to read a lot more in the sticky notes above on why you should not be doing ANY aas yet. Trust me there are to many side effects at your age and you have to much natural test to be screwing it up for the rest of your life.

    you can make the same gains with a good diet and working out expect you wont have any of the MANY side effects and life lone issues suck as no libido, no sex drive, cant get your dick up. REALLY... That's only the start.

    Before doing any more dong just get scared but read and keep reading and why it's best to wait a few more years...
    Thanks for the advice man,

    Would you suggest taking any pct steps at all? I do have some nolvadex and amitrex. Would completely advise against proceeding with any of the aforementioned newbie cycles?

    Thanks again,
    Frog

    EDIT: For the sake of clarity here is the exact log of what I took:
    Friday April 2nd, 11:20PM- 1cc test sus / 1cc tren (parabolan), 25mg dbol
    Saturday April 3rd, 10:35AM 25mg dbol / 10:20PM 25mg dbol.
    That is all I've subjected myself to so far.
    Last edited by 313frog; 04-04-2010 at 06:39 AM.

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    Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1ST find new friends or smarter ones.1st cycle you dont want or need tren.Never start a cycle without your gear for PCT.And read up on wat you are doing.There are guys like your friend all over the place.Who think they got it going on.We got all kind of vets here.Who are more than happy to help you.But you must read.Tons of info out there.Good luck.

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