23. TRT. Androgel and combinations?

[Raziel]

hey vet man thanx for the reply. Actually i have had symptoms of low test for years. I have only done one AAS cycle,just test enenthate. I had hormone tests done before and after the cycle and they were both low. So i have def been suffering from primary hypogonadism for a while. My Lh is very high but free test is way low.

Yeah he said the injections were every 2 or 3 weeks so thats why we went with the gel =/ He wants to see me back in 3 months for bloodwork so thats why i am holding off on my test E/Deca cycle that i had planned because i want to give the androgel a chance to see if that can get my T levels in check, However I thought that in the meantime I could maybe run a non methyl Prohormone along with the androgel.

[Raziel]

oh and designer steroids reffering to some of the new thigns out that didnt have to convert to a target hormone, they are just active as they are _superdrol for example)

[Raziel]

Also, I just want to say to vetman and whoever else can chime in, thank you, I did a lot of research on gear before i started and i loved my cycle experience and want to continue to do it, but this whole thing of TRT is new to me, so I'm still learning some things as I go along...bear with me guys.

Also, do I need to worry about transferring androgel to another through skin contact for the entire day/night? or is it just for 5 or 6 hours after application?

Honestly, the weird thing is, I'm in pretty good shape, not as good as I wanna be, but still good....and thats with low test....maybe once i get my levels straight I can really take it to the next level....here's hoping

[durak]

Also, I just want to say to vetman and whoever else can chime in, thank you, I did a lot of research on gear before i started and i loved my cycle experience and want to continue to do it, but this whole thing of TRT is new to me, so I'm still learning some things as I go along...bear with me guys.

Also, do I need to worry about transferring androgel to another through skin contact for the entire day/night? or is it just for 5 or 6 hours after application?

Honestly, the weird thing is, I'm in pretty good shape, not as good as I wanna be, but still good....and thats with low test....maybe once i get my levels straight I can really take it to the next level....here's hoping

Did you drink the day before your blood test?
How long after your last cycle of AAS did you get the blood test?

[Raziel]

Did you drink the day before your blood test?
How long after your last cycle of AAS did you get the blood test?

No i didn't drink, I hardly drink at all anymore really. It was about 2 or 3 weeks after my PCT that i got the test....and believe it or not, it wasnt a blood test, it was a saliva test, my GP said that it was more accurate than doing it through blood. However my Eurologist took blood ofr additional testing when he prescribed me the androgel.

[Vettester]

hey vet man thanx for the reply. Actually i have had symptoms of low test for years. I have only done one AAS cycle,just test enenthate. I had hormone tests done before and after the cycle and they were both low. So i have def been suffering from primary hypogonadism for a while. My Lh is very high but free test is way low.

Yeah he said the injections were every 2 or 3 weeks so thats why we went with the gel =/ He wants to see me back in 3 months for bloodwork so thats why i am holding off on my test E/Deca cycle that i had planned because i want to give the androgel a chance to see if that can get my T levels in check, However I thought that in the meantime I could maybe run a non methyl Prohormone along with the androgel.

Do you know what your FSH value is?

He's throwing out 2 or 3 weeks because he doesn't have it nailed down. That's why these guys fall back on Gel. IMO, he should be getting you back in 6 weeks to run follow up BW.

I personally think the Gel gets unstable after a period of time. It happened to me and it's happened to several other people on this board. Can't just be a coincidence. I wouldn't mix in a PH or anything else at this stage, you might end up feeling like garbage and causing issues with your body.

[Raziel]

Do you know what your FSH value is?

He's throwing out 2 or 3 weeks because he doesn't have it nailed down. That's why these guys fall back on Gel. IMO, he should be getting you back in 6 weeks to run follow up BW.

I personally think the Gel gets unstable after a period of time. It happened to me and it's happened to several other people on this board. Can't just be a coincidence. I wouldn't mix in a PH or anything else at this stage, you might end up feeling like garbage and causing issues with your body.

nah he wants me back in 3 MONTHS! I got a call from his office today about the other bloodwork. he said my bio available test was only 219, and i should keep using the andro gel @ 4 pumps a day. So far the gel is working well, I can feel a difference, but i have heard other say that after awhile they didnt absorb it as well so i dunno what to do about that. MY GP who had me do the saliva test said that my LH and FSH were elevated but didnt give me an exact number, they supposedly faxed my records over to my eurologist tho.

(my blood was drawn before i was on the gel, just to clarify)

[Raziel]

also, i was told that my bloodwork showed that my total test was in the normal range but just the free test was low, at 219.