Can I tell if my friend is on AAS?

[Bossman]

ez there tough guy. tough and on steroids are 2 different things buddy i dont know if you knew that. steroids dont make u tough! i know alot of steroid users who are bigger p*ssies then some of the girls i date. steroids make you bigger and muscular thats it

I know more they you think. I didn't say I knew tough asians on steroids. I posted some links of an asian friend of mine who's natural. Just to prove to some inbred and racist members that asians can be very strong/big without AAS.

Have you ever used AAS? I've also gotten much stronger, but maybe that's just me.

[Bossman]

ur link is to a half asain guy named josh decker! so his dad is white and mom is oriental then? so there one asian guy over 200 lbs who claims hes not on gear! congratulations. who says hes not on gear? himself? bodybuiding contests? it doesnt matter to me anyway
and yes hard work and proper diet works for everyone

You stupid inbred racist muther fvcker. Josh was adopted and raised by white parents. He's not half asian.

He holds several world records in natural power lifting organizations. He's tested every time he competes.

[RuhlFreak55]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

you HAVE to do that to keep yourself safe dude

[alexISthrowed]

ur link is to a half asain guy named josh decker! so his dad is white and mom is oriental then? so there one asian guy over 200 lbs who claims hes not on gear! congratulations. who says hes not on gear? himself? bodybuiding contests? it doesnt matter to me anyway
and yes hard work and proper diet works for everyone

He is adopted. He is 100% natural and 100% asian. Ive known him for a while now. He does enough tested meets that theres is no way he would have time to cycle and run pct. You are a noob and do not know what you are talking about. Please refrain from giving out ignorant information. I suggest taking a month or two and just read and maybe you will learn somthing.

[johnCash]

I posted some links of an asian friend of mine who's natural. Just to prove
learn how to speak english please if your going to start an argument. back to grade school for some... i originally said assume any big muscular asians are on steroids. then you come out of the blue saying you know some tough asians, so now i assume you meant to say strong not tough, so thanks for clearing that up. and no you posted some vids of some half asain who claims to be natural to prove your point. really though your comments didnt help the op at all cause instead of telling him the truth that his young friend is most likely on aas, you posted some lame vids of some 30 yr old noodle whose a prof. body builder and claims to be clean to prove the op wrong or something. great work! and yes ive tried aas and gained strength

[alexISthrowed]

I posted some links of an asian friend of mine who's natural. Just to prove
learn how to speak english please if your going to start an argument. back to grade school for some... i originally said assume any big muscular asians are on steroids. then you come out of the blue saying you know some tough asians, so now i assume you meant to say strong not tough, so thanks for clearing that up. and no you posted some vids of some half asain who claims to be natural to prove your point. really though your comments didnt help the op at all cause instead of telling him the truth that his young friend is most likely on aas, you posted some lame vids of some 30 yr old noodle whose a prof. body builder and claims to be clean to prove the op wrong or something. great work! and yes ive tried aas and gained strength

First of all I just said he is not half asian. Second of all you are trying to start an argument with a well respected vet on this board. Just stop now your not gonna win this one.

[johnCash]

You stupid inbred racist muther fvcker. Josh was adopted and raised by white parents. He's not half asian.

He holds several world records in natural power lifting organizations. He's tested every time he competes.

hey cbg6810 do you kiss your mother with that mouth? do you think i was insulting him by calling him only half asain? k he is 100% asian i dont care anyway. and there is no natural power lifting orgs. anymore im sure they only claim to be. hey why dont you give your pal josh decker a pat on the back from me then lol. so i bet you think barry bonds is clean too? he holds the world record for most natural home runs.

[Bossman]

hey cbg6810 do you kiss your mother with that mouth? do you think i was insulting him by calling him only half asain? k he is 100% asian i dont care anyway. and there is no natural power lifting orgs. anymore im sure they only claim to be. hey why dont you give your pal josh decker a pat on the back from me then lol. so i bet you think barry bonds is clean too? he holds the world record for most natural home runs.

You've insulted all asians with your blanket statement. Your posts make absolutely no sense.

[johnCash]

im not starting an argument, i was only clearing up the miscomunnication he seemed to have with my comment. im not racist, but was insulted like one by this well respected vet. maybe skip the your next workout and go get your grade 10! i only come here for good info anyway. done

[Vullfromsc]

hmm didn't think the remark about his genetics would be so offensive..

thought it was accepted in general that most oriental men are small, quick, and agile, not big and powerful, but of course there will be exceptions to stereotypes..

didn't mean to sound racist with that comment about him being asian

[Bossman]

im not starting an argument, i was only clearing up the miscomunnication he seemed to have with my comment. im not racist, but was insulted like one by this well respected vet. maybe skip the your next workout and go get your grade 10! i only come here for good info anyway. done

I'm not a vet moron. I have noticed you can't spell, use poor grammar and are still working on perfecting your punctuation. And you're saying I need to go back to school?

Racist, ignorant and stupid! Not the way I want to go through life. Good luck loser, you'll need it.

[no1tou]

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

This will make you a unhappy person the rest of your life. I used to be like you then I found being happy for people instead of hating led to a happier life.

I actually let my pride take me out of a possible professional drag racing career. I would lose and get so mad I wanted to kill them. No one liked being around me. It's healthy to be competitive but don't let it take the fun outta life. Just do what you enjoy period.

Besides if it bothers you as much as it did me just jump on cycle.

Dr. Phil signing out.

[no1tou]

I know more they you think. I didn't say I knew tough asians on steroids. I posted some links of an asian friend of mine who's natural. Just to prove to some inbred and racist members that asians can be very strong/big without AAS.

Have you ever used AAS? I've also gotten much stronger, but maybe that's just me.

[Vullfromsc]

This will make you a unhappy person the rest of your life. I used to be like you then I found being happy for people instead of hating led to a happier life.

I actually let my pride take me out of a possible professional drag racing career. I would lose and get so mad I wanted to kill them. No one liked being around me. It's healthy to be competitive but don't let it take the fun outta life. Just do what you enjoy period.

Besides if it bothers you as much as it did me just jump on cycle.

Dr. Phil signing out.

haha thanks man, think im gunna jump on cycle.. in 4 or 5 years when im 25ish lol

[taiboxa]

I'm not a vet moron. I have noticed you can't spell, use poor grammar and are still working on perfecting your punctuation. And you're saying I need to go back to school?

Racist, ignorant and stupid! Not the way I want to go through life. Good luck loser, you'll need it.

no matter what is being said.. when ever someone gives another person the title of Moron .. that always makes me giggle.. thats gotta be one of my fav words.. even more so than "tard"

[palevein]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

In all seriousness, I know alot of guys who are on cycle or have done cycles in the past that have denied it. Only after I started cycling did the topic become open and they admitted using it past/present.

Everybody is entitled to keep their own secrets imo, especially in the gym where steriods are seen by many beginner/novice lifters as "cheating". It's nothing to get jealous about, if you know he is and he's not admitting it that should be all the more consolation in your corner than anything

[jordann]

hey cbg6810 do you kiss your mother with that mouth? do you think i was insulting him by calling him only half asain? k he is 100% asian i dont care anyway. and there is no natural power lifting orgs. anymore im sure they only claim to be. hey why dont you give your pal josh decker a pat on the back from me then lol. so i bet you think barry bonds is clean too? he holds the world record for most natural home runs.

What the hell are you blabbering on about? Your redundant and convoluted run on sentences are actually giving me a headache. You can't even defend yourself because you don't even understand what you're talking about. Good job at confusing the board with your ridiculously stupid posts that literally DO NOT make any sense and you have no evidence to back what you're saying. Please do everyone a favor and never post here again. You've contributed nothing.

[Kingkuts]

OP- I think you know the answer to your question. It's not hard to figure out if someone is on AAS given the evidence. I'm not real sure why you even started this thread. If it was to start a shit storm, then you've succeeded.

Last week, on two different occasions I was asked if I was juicing. Once by friends just messing with me since my shirts don't quite fit like they did 6 weeks ago, and once at the gym with some guys I work out with from time to time. I replied no to both, even though I am.

I've put in at least 10 years of training and dieting. In athletics as well as in the gym. I've looked better and am stronger, pound for pound than 80% of the population naturally, without AAS. For every guy in great shape, there is 100 fat lazy slobs in this country.

I replied no not because I am ashamed or embarrassed. Or that I feel like I am cheating. Have you ever drank a few too many and driven home? Is that something you like to announce to everyone? My social group would not agree with my decisions to engage in something remotely illegal and health hazardous. It's my choice to do so, and also my choice to keep it private.

You can go to GNC and blow hundreds of dollars a month on prohormones. Is that cheating? I don't think so. It's not like AAS is a magic pill that you take and instantly gain muscle. They are enhancements, not miracles. You still have to work your guts out and diet properly, just as you do on prohormones and all the other OTC bs.

[ciptech]

some people just like to keep it to themselves. there's a lot of moderate drug users who like using drugs who keep it to themselves. this is no different.

bragging is just normal human nature. people like to talk about their accomplishments. that will never change, so just don't let the bragging get to you. the other posters are right, just focus on yourself.

[ciptech]

Alright so.. I'm a sophomore in college and I have a friend who goes to the gym around the same time that I do every day.

He is a senior (4th year in college) and pretty massive. He has been working out since freshman year (3.5 years of working out).
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 190 lbs (low body fat.. still has 6 abs)
Arms: 19 Inches
Waist: 32 Inches

Some lifting stats (I spot him occasionally):
Barbell Bench: 295 lbs for 9
Shoulder Press (Arnold style with dumbbells): 95lb each hand for 8
Leg Press: 1300 lbs for 12

About two months ago he started getting bad acne. 3 weeks ago his really bad acne went away and he started to get stronger. His bench wasn't even at 275 for 10 then, now its at 295 for 11 IN ONLY 3 WEEKS WTF.

I definitely think he was on a PCT when his acne came.

Is this even possible naturally? 20lbs on his bench in 3 weeks after he has been plateaued for almost 1 year.

Is he on AAS or is this possible naturally?

Oh and to complicate things, he has horrible genetics (he is ASIAN, usually not typically big) and his diet is terrible, eats cheese burgers all the time.

here's one other issue with your post. i know guys that were "working out" the same length of time as myself, who didn't make nearly the gains i have. take a closer look at his workouts. just cause someone is working out the same length of time as you means nothing about how smart your workouts are.

on the asian thing. i know many asian guys who can put up a lot of weight on the bench press. i personally feel that it's because many asians have shorter arms and oftentimes are stocky up top (no pun intended, i'm a tall lanky white guy, admittedly we're all different). i think this puts them at an advantage on the bench press because they have a shorter range to bench in proper form. a lot of asian guys have good chest development as a result. food for thought.

[D_iamond]

hahah This is freaking awsome i love watching handicappable folks one they get out of the cage.

[jg2]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

WOW.... thats the best i have ever seen ANYONE take the honest truth.... man crush or not he can take it on the chops for sweating someone else for juicing or not..... who gives a fuk.. juice or dont.. lie or dont... WHO GIVES A FUK

mad props on taking the criticism like a man tho...

[AlphaGenetics]

This guy is a jealous, egotistical, racist, insecure, genetically inferior, tool. IMO

[Vullfromsc]

This guy is a jealous, egotistical, racist, insecure, genetically inferior, tool. IMO

your opinion is horribly incorrect, beside the tool part of course

[ShadowOfTheColossal]

if you see any asian over 200 lbs and muscle you should automatically assume he is on aas because he is. u dont get big from eating noodles and rice all day watching kung fu movies

lol what about the eating competitor who got beefed up over a year eating Asian food

[tubs]

It is easy for me to tell if someone is using, if they are stronger then i am they are on the juice.