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    that was a really big help, i appreciate it. all three of you were clear and made sense. i will make sure to include clomid and arimidex, and since the consensus seems to be to drop the deca, i suppose i will. i'll keep my eyes open for hgc, but it'll probablly be for my second cycle, so i have a long time and i'm not worried about it.
    One last question, with the arimidex should i wait until the telltale signs of gyno begin to start it, save it for the end or run it on cycle reguardless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximal_effort View Post
    that was a really big help, i appreciate it. all three of you were clear and made sense. i will make sure to include clomid and arimidex, and since the consensus seems to be to drop the deca, i suppose i will. i'll keep my eyes open for hgc, but it'll probablly be for my second cycle, so i have a long time and i'm not worried about it.
    One last question, with the arimidex should i wait until the telltale signs of gyno begin to start it, save it for the end or run it on cycle reguardless?
    Everyone is somewhat different when it comes to using an AI during their cycle. Some people know they are gyno prone and tend to retain water a lot. Therefore, they usually dose the AI (arimidex) during their cycle, from the start.

    Others will wait for first signs of possible gyno (itchy nips) and then start to dose the AI. They use it only as needed because they don't want to drop their estrogen too low and inhibit possible gains on cycle (cause you need some estrogen too).

    My opinion, I like to keep bloat and water retention to a minimum. I'm not a big numbers guy, so gaining as much weight as possible on a cycle doesn't matter to me. I'd rather keep the 5-10 lbs. of water off all together. Plus, I like to take preventative measures against gyno. If I am using HCG during my cycle, my estrogen tends to rise quite a bit. Therefore, I will always take an AI also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    Everyone is somewhat different when it comes to using an AI during their cycle. Some people know they are gyno prone and tend to retain water a lot. Therefore, they usually dose the AI (arimidex) during their cycle, from the start.

    Others will wait for first signs of possible gyno (itchy nips) and then start to dose the AI. They use it only as needed because they don't want to drop their estrogen too low and inhibit possible gains on cycle (cause you need some estrogen too).

    My opinion, I like to keep bloat and water retention to a minimum. I'm not a big numbers guy, so gaining as much weight as possible on a cycle doesn't matter to me. I'd rather keep the 5-10 lbs. of water off all together. Plus, I like to take preventative measures against gyno. If I am using HCG during my cycle, my estrogen tends to rise quite a bit. Therefore, I will always take an AI also.
    How important is it to test estrgon levels before taking arimidex or could you use a symptom to start.

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