Stuff came in today. For a recap I'm doing a 4 week cycle of the two, 50 mg ed for 4 weeks of the H-Drol, and 90 to 120 mg ed of the Propadrol (increase after week 2). I took 1 pill of each about 30 mins. before workout... Along with Jack3d... It was back and tri's day and I had an amazing workout... I'm not sure if I felt it or just a placebo (Propadrol is supposed to kick in right away). But I felt great throughout workout and threw up some new pr's...