^^^ I have a baby bottle warmer that would be perfect for that, you fill the water to the level you want, then put the bottle in and it heats it, you can put an inch of water or so for the vial.
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^^^ I have a baby bottle warmer that would be perfect for that, you fill the water to the level you want, then put the bottle in and it heats it, you can put an inch of water or so for the vial.
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LoL this was going to be my next question - it's the main reason i'm using a draw needle. I guess i'll give it a shot, thanks again bro!Originally Posted by First6
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Speaking of baby bottle warmers - I need to have a baby and if I keep playing with AAS I may be screwing my chances... i'm no spring chicken as it is! Hoping this doesn't screw my sperm count.
Ok, sorry for hijacking my own thread.
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just enjoy practiceing while your on cycle then when the boys bounce back your ready to go....Speaking of baby bottle warmers - I need to have a baby and if I keep playing with AAS I may be screwing my chances... i'm no spring chicken as it is! Hoping this doesn't screw my sperm count.
Ok, sorry for hijacking my own thread.
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Just hoping the boys bounce back...
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LOLOk, sorry for hijacking my own thread.
Yeah they will bounce back.
I have been meaning to go check out your thread on tweaking your cycle but I have not gotten to it yet. I will in a few minutes. As long as you have your pct worked out you will be fine.
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Oh yeah I think you should def at least try it. Your not reusing the pins so how dull could it possibly make it to stick it through the stopper one time before going through your skin? I don't know... I could never tell any dif at all. Besides... you get the bonus of not having to worry about the air or messing with the extra pins or any of that.
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Hey guys, I pinned for second time this afternoon (about 7-8 hours ago) in my quad, ,middle outter meaty portion. It is already pretty sore, my last one was not sore at all until the next day. Is this anything to be concerned about? I cant find many other people saying they have had same day soreness.
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Anyone?
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A lot of awesome tips in this thread, thanks guys and good job gb!
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Same day soreness is rare for me but it does happen once in a while. You should do some no weight squats right now. Do about 30 or so. Nice and deep. It will hurt but it will help. I always do some of those right after pinning in that area. It helps a lot. You prob just moved the needle around some while it was in. It might be sore for up to 3 days.
You should NOT have any redness or swelling. Watch for it.
You may get Real sore depending on how much you moved that needle. I got so sore one time it was hard to sit down.
you will be okay but Keep me posted.
Last edited by First6; 05-10-2010 at 09:42 PM.
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Thanks for the quick response my dude, I had the same thoughts about not moving around and working it in. I had to jump in the car and drive like 6hrs right after. I'm wicked paranoid about injecting, and the first shot I was petrified but my buddy made me do it myself, he was right there though coaching. I must confess I almost passed out during Friday's shot. Today I had about 100 things to be paranoid about and I wasn't really focusing about not moving it aroundAt one point i remember i was like oh shit I gotta relax (my thigh was kinda tight). I will obviously not make the same mistake and will work on not moving it. I was just worried about infection and shit, but like I said I'm paranoid about it so I think I took the proper steps. Anyways thanks I will rest a bit easier tonight. Keep you posted
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Roscco - start your own thread hijacker! J/K, I don't mind.
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Your one to talk! If I recall you hijacked your own thread not to many posts ago! LOL
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gbrice,
Hey Bro - Startin to feel it yet today?
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just to throw in there so you don't panic if it happens.... sometimes you will pierce a vein and blood can squirt out when you pull out... had that happen a few times but don't worry about it all is good
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Yeah its pretty sore today, like the other one was after three days. I'm sure it will be worse tomorrow but its not as bad as it was last night. There is no swelling, redness, or bruising so i guess I just gotta put my labia away and stop being a *****Thanks for all your input
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Hey bro, no, unfortunately nothing today (you're referring to the dbol or test e?).
I am up almost 10lbs, but as you know I did up my calories (and carbs significantly) by 1000, so it could be all the excess food/water retention.
I don't expect to see anything from the test e (IF it's legit) for another 2 weeks or so.
4th injection tomorrow night. 2nd time around the injection site is MUCH less sore, hardly sore at all.
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4th injection done - super clean, best one yet! No issues whatsoever. Used an 18g to draw which made it a million times easier. Pinned with the 23g, no problem. Injected a full CC this time (300mg) because I had so much trouble drawing during my last injection, I wasn't able to get the full 250mg that I normally take.
No blood when I pulled out, feeling good about this one and hopefully back on track. Still have some time before I can decide whether this is even real test e or not though... fingers crossed.
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Sounds like it went very well. Yeah it is fine to up it this time since last time was less. How was the draw? Did the new syringe make it come in with no air?
Glad it's going well I would think you would feel it soon??? What is the timeframe you were told?
Up 10 pounds concerns me a little. That is much more than expected in this short time. Think you may want to knock 500 off your intake? What are your thougts?
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Have you gotten the virgin quad pain yet? You will know when it comes.
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Sorry to keep jacking your thread bro but we in the same stage so its ok? First of all is the virgin quad pain about your knee and makes you want to end your life? Up through out the night popping ibpro, and ice hot patches today but feeling better. Its been the worst pain and I have had some serious ****ing pain.
The air in the plunger, I get some air drawing with a 23 gauge, is that why everyone draws with a larger gauge to minimize it? Does it matter if you got some air in there? My buddy told me a little air is good and it seals the shit or something, dunno hes premed and says doctors use a little air. You guys try to keep it out?
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It was either the new syringe, the 18g needle, or a combo of both - but either way, I got no air, the draw was quick and simple as was the injection.
I'm 1.5 weeks into the test e, so I don't expect to feel it yet. Around the 3 week mark is what I hear most often.
Remember, I had a HORRID weekend of eating which had alot to do with the 10lbs. I'm already down a few lbs. which is alarming in it's own way considering i'm on dbol =( .
On another note, I was messing around with the new scale last night and did a stupid thing by getting on at the end of the night and right after dinner. Stupid, I know - but I wanted to try it out! Told me I was 20% bodyfat and my body age is 53. Very upsetting, even knowing that it wasn't a proper measurement. I'll be doing it for real Sat. morning.
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Both quads were extremely sore (tough time walking) after each initial injection, but with the 2nd injection there has been hardly any pain in either quad.
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Bro, I definitely had pain after each initial injection, but nothing like you're describing. Are you getting any redness, swelling, puss, etc?
I had a terrible time drawing with a 23g and no problem whatsoever drawing with the 18g. I don't know about the air situation, maybe it was just coincidence, but I think most people use the 18g simply because it's faster due to it's larger size.
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6 out of my 8 injections that i've taken have been the way you describe....extremely painful and the pain lasts for over a week. Can't sleep some nights because I can't find a comfortable position. The other two were moderate and the pain was gone in a couple days. It has to do with the brand of test you're using and how the shot is administered (several factors).
The thicker gauge needle allows you to draw quicker and the thinner fresh needle will penetrate your skin easier. You also want to inject slowly, so the thinner needle pretty much assures this.
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I'm doing test enanthate 1 cc mon weds fri had 3rd inject last night my buddy shot my delt, felt great feels great today but **** the quad shot from Monday was ****ing horrible and still hurts like a biotch but I'll be alright no redness or swelling I'm using 1inch 23 right now no switch my buddy says the air on aspirate isn't actually air that it's simply the vacume dunno all I know is I want to be 3 weeks in right now!!!!!ahhh
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I'm 1.5 weeks in - I wanna be on week 3 as well!
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You're shooting it 3 days a week? Most people shoot it twice a week, spaced out at 3.5 days.
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would it matter? My buddy has always done it this way and thinks its best, also would be to late to switch now?
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When i try to view someones profile I get this
rosscokid, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
why is that?
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Good luck on your cycle man, I'm really learning a lot from this thread. Noticed any gains yet? If I started a cycle I know I would probably be super anxious to see the gains coming in. Its like being a kid and counting down to xmas haha.
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Rossco - there's a section for issue with the forum - you need to post this kind of stuff there, not on my thread pls!
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Thanks bro. No noticable gains yet - but only on the 2nd week of test e, so nothing expected at this point. The dbol however is another story - i'm about 2 days from accepting the fact that it's bunk gear. Hope it's not the same deal with the test e (different lab thankfully).
I hear you - I am like a kid on xmas morning!
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Okay. I am back. sorry i missed this post. I have been gone for a couple days.
That's to funny with the scale. I did the same thing when mine came inteh mail. Made me want to send it right back! LOL How is it first thing in the morning? numbers are what you expected?
Man that is a shame. S^!t aint cheap. Hopefully your test will be good.
I have never had the dbol so I don't know what to tell you but I'm sure you have gotten plenty of good advise with it.
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Welcome back! I haven't checked first thing yet - that will be tomorrow morning. Honestly, I can't imaging the numbers being THAT much different/lower, so I am kind of concerned. I knew I wasn't at 10% bodyfat, but I didn't think I was close to 20%. Maybe 15. We'll see.
Yea, at this point all I can do is keep my fingers crossed for the test e. I did find an @home test kit that specifically tests for the presence of AAS; I don't know how accurate it is, but that company @home makes a bunch of tests for various things, so they are legit. The point is if I can prove there are no levels of either dbol, test e, or both - I can confront the guy I got the gear from and get my money back, or get legit gear.
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When I did it my numbers were significantly dif. I THINK I remember it saying I was around 22 and then the next morning around 18-19. It stays consistant as long as I do it the same time each day.
ALSO - the manual does not state it but you need to squeeze the handheld portion to get accurate and consistant results.
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I reused the same 18g pin to draw throughout the whole cycle. Never had a problem.
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Same to draw only or also pinning?
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2 weeks left on this cycle. I just figured i'd revive my thread if anybody cares. If you read through the thread, you'll see that i'm pretty positive I had bunk dbol, but at that point hadn't been doing the test long enough to know whether or not it too was bunk.
Well, I think I can safely say now that it was/is real. So far, I am up 25lbs and my waist size hasn't changed. I'm sure I put on a few pounds of fat, but nothing significant. My best guess is 15lbs LBM, 5lbs bodyfat, 5lbs water retention. I can't complain. Also, strength has increased dramatically:
Bench Press has increased 40lbs, and my 1RM has increased 25lbs
Squat has increased 90lbs
Dumbell Shoulder Press has increased 30lbs per shoulder
Barbell Row has increased 25lbs
Dumbell Curls have increased 10lbs per arm
Just to name a few. I think this is great progress, especially considering my bench press was stuck at the same weight for almost a year! Now I just hope I can KEEP the gains and pushing these weights - I do not want to wind up doing all of my old weights in a month!
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