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[Tenebrous]

Welcome Hypo .. whether or not its the right forum I'm sure you can get some feedback here.

You posted a lot of symptoms and blood work, but didn't post any results. Those symptoms could be a consequence of several different conditions. Proper diagnosis will require more information.

Most people here on this forum have experience with low testosterone problems and treatment options. Any chance you can post your labs? Mainly the following:
- Total Testosterone
- Free Testosterone
- Estrogen
- Thyroid Hormones T3/T4/TSH

[TheOneWithout]

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[Hyposomnia]

Welcome Hypo .. whether or not its the right forum I'm sure you can get some feedback here.

You posted a lot of symptoms and blood work, but didn't post any results. Those symptoms could be a consequence of several different conditions. Proper diagnosis will require more information.

Most people here on this forum have experience with low testosterone problems and treatment options. Any chance you can post your labs? Mainly the following:
- Total Testosterone
- Free Testosterone
- Estrogen
- Thyroid Hormones T3/T4/TSH

Hi Teneprous and thank you!
My test for testosterone and estrogen was a while back and I've lost the papers, and so have my doctor (even though they have database for that ). I remember that they took total only and not free.

My recent values
- TSH: 1.8 mIU/L
- T3: 4.2 pmol
- T4: 17 pmol
- Cortisol: 538 (?unit?)

Other standard values like hemoglobine, leukocytes, lymfocytes, trombocytes were all "good" according to my doctor.

[Tenebrous]

Agree with Tubs .. we really need to see your TT and free T levels to get some idea. Frankly I don't know much about thyroid numbers, since I don't have an issue myself other than possible subclinical hypothyroid and your TSH looks fine. Cortisol is probably nmol/L and was fine as long as it was done in the morning, according to what I'm reading.

Around here, the big benchmark numbers are total and free testosterone, estradiol, and to some extent your signal hormones LH and FSH.

These tests are usually back in 2 or 3 days so you can just go run your labs anywhere if your doc lost the results.

[Hyposomnia]

Agree with Tubs .. we really need to see your TT and free T levels to get some idea. Frankly I don't know much about thyroid numbers, since I don't have an issue myself other than possible subclinical hypothyroid and your TSH looks fine. Cortisol is probably nmol/L and was fine as long as it was done in the morning, according to what I'm reading.

Around here, the big benchmark numbers are total and free testosterone, estradiol, and to some extent your signal hormones LH and FSH.

These tests are usually back in 2 or 3 days so you can just go run your labs anywhere if your doc lost the results.

So Testosteron, Estradiol, LH and FSH all 'free'?
Is blood test trustworthy for this or should it be done with saliva test? Because they don't offer saliva test where I live .
And also I was thinking, high Prolactin level? Or should that cause low Testosteron? They didn't want to check that last time I asked so.

you are suffering from low testosterone symptoms , you have low levels of testosterone so you have increase your testosterone level....

Hmm how do you know that is the reason? And why are you linking HGH to some random site? Spam?YOU ARE CORRECT HE IS A SPAMMER THANKS!!! *admin*

[forrest_and_trees]

I can't speak for the other guy and I don't have any personal exp with HGH [yet] however, I would agree, it sounds like low testosterone. One thing to be careful of, is your "total testosternoe" numbers may fall in the *normal* levels, i.e. [anything from 300-600] and still be considered, "normal" however, even at those levels you can still have Low T symptoms which is what really matters. When it comes to Total T, you can go as high as 1200 and still be considered normal.

Same thing with thyroid. In recent years, the leading institutes who determine "normal" levels have changed their ratings. At one time anything below 5 was normal. Now symptoms are more heavily weighted that mere numbers. So be sure to tell this to your doctor about your symptoms, even if he says,"your numbers are normal." Truth is, everyone is different, what's normal for you may not be normal for the next guy.

It's good you're asking these questions at your age. I wish I had done the same instead of waiting nearly 20 years to begin addressing the issue. I know what you're feeling about work and relationships because I've gone thorough the same and it aint easy. Hang in there and keep doing what you're doing.

I would also check this site for the ADAMS questionnaire. It's what really helped me better understand the symptoms associated with LowT. There were a few I wasn't aware of. You may still be in the early stages, but at 42, I got a 10 out of 10 on the questionnaire, I'm hoping you don't for your sake.

[Tenebrous]

So Testosteron, Estradiol, LH and FSH all 'free'?
Is blood test trustworthy for this or should it be done with saliva test? Because they don't offer saliva test where I live .
And also I was thinking, high Prolactin level? Or should that cause low Testosteron? They didn't want to check that last time I asked so.

Hmm how do you know that is the reason? And why are you linking HGH to some random site? Spam?

You can go with a blood test. Get total testosterone, free testosterone, estradiol, LH, FSH. You can get prolactin also; my endo ran prolactin at the very beginning, although I'm not entirely clear on why. Something about a possible "prolactin tumor" which he ruled out early on.

Total testosteorne, free testosterone, estradiol, LH and FSH are the benchmarks for male HRT. You need these numbers to get started with anything.