umm no i have been working out since i was 15 im 26 now. trust me i am vascular but not ropey.....and if up to my genetics i come a small family. my dad is only 5.5 feet tall n weighs only 130 lbs....my body reached its natural limit at 150 lbs....but im at 170 lbs....so the genetics theory is a crop out...sorry i dont buy it. winny will give u viens n hardness...thas what its for





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