No gains after 1st cycle???

[jayvio]

so idealy u want to use steroids before u reach your natural potential to help u get there... and then try to keep it.. instead of using the aas after u have already reached it??

[lovbyts]

so idealy u want to use steroids before u reach your natural potential to help u get there... and then try to keep it.. instead of using the aas after u have already reached it??

NO, you are reading it backwards also.
You should always try to reach your natural potential first. Yes you will PROBABLY loose some, maybe most of your gains eventually but really MOST people dont even come close to their natural limits even though they think they are at them.

It's like most kids who are 6' 2" 160 lbs who say they CANT gain weight, they are at their max. LOL

One you have reached or come close to your natural limits and you figure out out to eat/diet your body will adjust and you keep a lot or most of the muscle if you do it right or at least it is a SLOW process of it going back down and by the time it does you are probably ready for another cycle.

The cycles dont have to be BIG to maintain it either so dont over think it unless you are planning on trying to get HUGE and compete.

[juicyfruit71]

Once you have reached or come close to your natural limits and you figure out out to eat/diet your body will adjust and you keep a lot or most of the muscle if you do it right or at least it is a SLOW process of it going back down and by the time it does you are probably ready for another cycle[/B].

The cycles dont have to be BIG to maintain it either so dont over think it unless you are planning on trying to get HUGE and compete.

I agree with you that most people think they've reached their limits when they haven't. But still...what you said above seems like a concession to Big's point...that once you've reached your limits, you WILL lose all your gains...though, as you stated, it may be slow.

[Big]

I agree with you that most people think they've reached their limits when they haven't. But still...what you said above seems like a concession to Big's point...that once you've reached your limits, you WILL lose all your gains...though, as you stated, it may be slow.

that's not what I said either lol, I give up