Tren E vs Tren Ace

[STEEL1983]

Well sounds like my source was right then with regards to Tren E......

For guys who have experience running a Tren E cycle, what dosage would you run it at?
Basically what I'm asking is when I do next cycle later this year what is the recommended cycle and dosage for a Tren E cycle (including other AAS to stack this with).

There is little information on Tren E cycles to be honest as most people prefer the Tren Ace cycles for the reasons outlined by the other members............

[marcus300]

Well sounds like my source was right then with regards to Tren E......

For guys who have experience running a Tren E cycle, what dosage would you run it at?
Basically what I'm asking is when I do next cycle later this year what is the recommended cycle and dosage for a Tren E cycle (including other AAS to stack this with).

There is little information on Tren E cycles to be honest as most people prefer the Tren Ace cycles for the reasons outlined by the other members............

It wouldnt matter what dosages we use at and what cycles we use in with, its all about your stats and cycle history, have you used tren before? what are your previous cycles and dosages?

[FunkLord]

In theory, Tren Ace should have fewer side effects, thanks to more stable blood levels from the more frequent injections with smaller shots.

However, after reading the experiences of a lot of people, it seems that in practice, people experience less sides with Tren E.

The big advantage to Tren Ace, is if the sides are unbearable, you can stop injecting it and the sides should be gone within a week. If you get unbearable sides with the Enanthate Ester, it could take up to a month for them to go away.

Apart from the sides, the biggest difference would be the duration of the cycle.
Tren E is the same as any other long estered compound in that it needs time before it starts to take effect. It should be run for at least 10 weeks just like Test E. Ace is pretty close to prop and is more suitable for a cycle in the 4-8 week range.

[STEEL1983]

Marcus my stats are as follows.....

26yrs old
5"9 tall
weigh 225 pounds (16 stone)
body fat at the moment is a respectable 12%
I have been bodybuilding for 8 years, seriously for last fours years. Did my first (and only) show competing in the naturals 3 years ago, realsied that they were all taking or had had taken gear in the past, had a long hard think about where i wanted to go/be and decided to take my first AAS cycle shortly after the show....

I have done 4 cycles since then and am currently in my third week of my 5th cyclle (first "cutting cycle")

here are my previous cycles

12 week cycles with two injections per week usually tuesday and Friday:-
1st ever cycle-
500mg of sustanon
400mg of Deca
obviously because I had dieted (16 stone down to 12 stone) the gains i experienced were very good and I reached 17 stone quite quickly.

I then was advised by training partners to extend the duration of the cycles to 15 week cycles- 2nd cycle:-
500mg Test E
400mg Deca

3rd Cycle
again the same as above

4th Cycle
600mg Testablend
400mg Deca

Current cycle is an 8 week course with an extended 2 weeks of 200mg of prop Eod before PCT.
Tren Ace Eod 50mg
Test Prop Eod 100mg

I know straight away people are gonna say 100mg Eod but for my first time using Tren Ace i wanted to be sensible as you here loads of horror stories about horrendous sides, luckily I am not experiencing any of those sides at all, to be honest I am experiencing no sides at all.
The pinning Eod is a a bloody pain lol hence the convenience of Tren E and long extered compounds.

I have also taken HGH at amounts of 4iu per day (split in morning and mid afternoon injections) for two stints of 6 months in the past during the last 3 years but finances have had to put a halt to that for the mean time.

I have never been one to suffer bad sides from Steroids, my diet is very good, I don't drink excessive amounts of alcohol (once a week) and I train religously four times a week.

My diet at the moment is:-

meal 1 (6am)
6 whole egg omelette
1/2 tin of sliced pineapple in own juices

Workout

Meal 2 post workout (approx 730am)
2 scoop CNP Pro Recover with water

Meal 3 (10:30am)
200g Chicken Breast
200g Green beans/or any green vegatable

Meal 4 (1:30pm)
200g Chicken breast
200g green Beans/or any green vegatable
medium sized jacket potato

Meal 5 (4:30pm)
200g Chicken breast
200g green Beans/or any green vegatables

Meal 6 (8pm)
200g Chicken Breast

This diet is adhered to from Monday to Fridays with a cheat days being Saturday and Sunday but to be honest I don't go as crazy as i did when i was doing the show!! lol

I'm not training for a show at the moment and my weight seems to stay at a constant 16 stone mark.

I also go power walking every day morning or night depending on training times at 5am for 45 minutes.

I think thats pretty much it really :-)
So what cycles would you guys recommend for me for the next step?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Marcus my stats are as follows.....

26yrs old
5"9 tall
weigh 225 pounds (16 stone)
body fat at the moment is a respectable 12%
I have been bodybuilding for 8 years, seriously for last fours years. Did my first (and only) show competing in the naturals 3 years ago, realsied that they were all taking or had had taken gear in the past, had a long hard think about where i wanted to go/be and decided to take my first AAS cycle shortly after the show....

I have done 4 cycles since then and am currently in my third week of my 5th cyclle (first "cutting cycle")

here are my previous cycles

12 week cycles with two injections per week usually tuesday and Friday:-
1st ever cycle-
500mg of sustanon
400mg of Deca
obviously because I had dieted (16 stone down to 12 stone) the gains i experienced were very good and I reached 17 stone quite quickly.

I then was advised by training partners to extend the duration of the cycles to 15 week cycles- 2nd cycle:-
500mg Test E
400mg Deca

3rd Cycle
again the same as above

4th Cycle
600mg Testablend
400mg Deca

Current cycle is an 8 week course with an extended 2 weeks of 200mg of prop Eod before PCT.
Tren Ace Eod 50mg
Test Prop Eod 100mg

I know straight away people are gonna say 100mg Eod but for my first time using Tren Ace i wanted to be sensible as you here loads of horror stories about horrendous sides, luckily I am not experiencing any of those sides at all, to be honest I am experiencing no sides at all.
The pinning Eod is a a bloody pain lol hence the convenience of Tren E and long extered compounds.

I have also taken HGH at amounts of 4iu per day (split in morning and mid afternoon injections) for two stints of 6 months in the past during the last 3 years but finances have had to put a halt to that for the mean time.

I have never been one to suffer bad sides from Steroids, my diet is very good, I don't drink excessive amounts of alcohol (once a week) and I train religously four times a week.

My diet at the moment is:-

meal 1 (6am)
6 whole egg omelette
1/2 tin of sliced pineapple in own juices

Workout

Meal 2 post workout (approx 730am)
2 scoop CNP Pro Recover with water

Meal 3 (10:30am)
200g Chicken Breast
200g Green beans/or any green vegatable

Meal 4 (1:30pm)
200g Chicken breast
200g green Beans/or any green vegatable
medium sized jacket potato

Meal 5 (4:30pm)
200g Chicken breast
200g green Beans/or any green vegatables

Meal 6 (8pm)
200g Chicken Breast

This diet is adhered to from Monday to Fridays with a cheat days being Saturday and Sunday but to be honest I don't go as crazy as i did when i was doing the show!! lol

I'm not training for a show at the moment and my weight seems to stay at a constant 16 stone mark.

I also go power walking every day morning or night depending on training times at 5am for 45 minutes.

I think thats pretty much it really :-)
So what cycles would you guys recommend for me for the next step?

you're a beast man. Glad to hear tren-a isn't giving you any sides since that will be included in my next cycle