Just got my Test Prop plus Winnie stanozolol! Advice appreciated

[Egeezy]

Hello,

I just got it today! will be ready to start shooting in about two weeks! I have done my research i would just like any and all advice i can get!

Stats:

Age: 23
Weight: 165
Height: 5*9
BF % - Not positive i am very cut and have veins all throughout my body. If i had to guess i would say like 6-7%

I have done two previous cycles of test cypionate a couple years back and just recently finished a pro hormone cycle of rage t19 (supposively it's 95% Tren)

How many mgs of test prop should i shoot a week?
Should i start my test prop before my winnie?
The winnie is stanozolol liquid oral, and is a 50 day cycle. how much & how often should i take that?

Like i mentioned any advice is appreciated . . I am somewhat new to this

For pct i will be taking liquid clomi, and novedex xt!

Thanks

[Matt]

For now id forget the aas and concentrate on eating, at 165lbs theres somethings wrong, added to that you've already cycled..

You do understand that diet should be your first priority when using aas. Without a solid diet any gains you make will be short lived therefore your just throwing your money away...

Imo you need to post your current diet in the diet forum and lets go from there..

[Egeezy]

For now id forget the aas and concentrate on eating, at 165lbs theres somethings wrong, added to that you've already cycled..

You do understand that diet should be your first priority when using aas. Without a solid diet any gains you make will be short lived therefore your just throwing your money away...

Imo you need to post your current diet in the diet forum and lets go from there..

Okay, My diet is spot on! I eat very healthy and have been training for 2 years!

I am a boxer and my goal is not to gain weight it is to stay healthy and get very very ripped and super solid.

This is typically what i eat everyday to give everyone an idea

I eat about 8 times a day so bear with me. HA

Breakfast: 3 egg whits 1 whole egg, Toast, Oats, 50 g protein shake
Snack: Veggies, Protein Bar, V8
Brunch: Tuna fish sandwich, Fat Free cottage cheese with peaches, Milk
Snack Before Gym: Nuts, Beef Jerky, Bananna,
Dinner: Chicken or steak, Rice, Steamed Veggies, 50 g protein shake
Snack: PB & J & v8

and then another 50g protein shake with fruits right before bed

[Egeezy]

Any other suggestions, Advice?

[JoeSmoe]

I think u will do fine but u do need to fine tune that diet. 3 shakes is too many. you need to get your protein through food. Shakes flush through your system in less than 90 minutes flooding your body with more protein than you could use in the first place (unless you have just worked out) then drop off to nothing. Real food takes 4-5 hours to break down providing u more protein on demand.

I've always been under the impression that your body can only use so much protein at one time. IMHO drinking shakes at the same time as eating protein meals is a waste.

[Egeezy]

So here's what i'm thinking im going to do.

Test Prop: I'm going to shoot 400 mgs a week so that's 100 mgs eod for 5 weeks.

Winstrol: It's stanozol liquid oral, So i will take 1cc a day for the first week.
2cc's week 2-4 and then back down to 1cc ed for week 5

What do you guys think?

When should i start my liquid clomi and nolva? thanks!

[AlphaGenetics]

So here's what i'm thinking im going to do.

Test Prop: I'm going to shoot 400 mgs a week so that's 100 mgs eod for 5 weeks.

Winstrol: It's stanozol liquid oral, So i will take 1cc a day for the first week.
2cc's week 2-4 and then back down to 1cc ed for week 5

What do you guys think?

When should i start my liquid clomi and nolva? thanks!

Start pct 3 days after last prop shot. Youve been advised to not run this cycle and I have to agree. Your workouts must be lacking so I would research that and get your diet in check before running aas.

[Egeezy]

Okay, Thanks for your help! I will post my diet in the diet section to see what everyone thinks. If i get my diet in check would i be okay to run this cycle?

Or would u still not recommend it?

[Egeezy]

Bump, would anyone change anything?

[*RAGE*]

Diet is spot on...

Please post it up

along as pic's

so we can help you...

[Egeezy]

Here is a pic of me about 2 weeks ago

[etman]

Week 1-8 test prop 75 mg Ed or 150mg eod I prefer Ed
week 6-8 Winnie 75mg Ed
Start Pct 4 days after last injection

[Egeezy]

Week 1-8 test prop 75 mg Ed or 150mg eod I prefer Ed
week 6-8 Winnie 75mg Ed
Start Pct 4 days after last injection

So i shouldn't start the winnie until 6 weeks in?

Why is that?

[etman]

I use the Winnie at the end of the cycle to cut what you have built the previous 6weeks

[Matt]

Okay, My diet is spot on! I eat very healthy and have been training for 2 years!

I am a boxer and my goal is not to gain weight it is to stay healthy and get very very ripped and super solid.

This is typically what i eat everyday to give everyone an idea

I eat about 8 times a day so bear with me. HA

Breakfast: 3 egg whits 1 whole egg, Toast, Oats, 50 g protein shake
Snack: Veggies, Protein Bar, V8
Brunch: Tuna fish sandwich, Fat Free cottage cheese with peaches, Milk
Snack Before Gym: Nuts, Beef Jerky, Bananna,
Dinner: Chicken or steak, Rice, Steamed Veggies, 50 g protein shake
Snack: PB & J & v8

and then another 50g protein shake with fruits right before bed

That has to be one of the worst diets ive ever seen....

All you are doing is trying to do is replace your diet with aas...

[Egeezy]

That has to be one of the worst diets ive ever seen....

All you are doing is trying to do is replace your diet with aas...

What would you change? What's so bad about it? It seems to be working i have gained 11 pounds in 30 days . .

Thanks for your honesty and please critique if it needs work

[Egeezy]

Bump, can anyone help with suggestions on my diet please? Thanks in advance!

[Little Herc]

I think u will do fine but u do need to fine tune that diet. 3 shakes is too many. you need to get your protein through food. Shakes flush through your system in less than 90 minutes flooding your body with more protein than you could use in the first place (unless you have just worked out) then drop off to nothing. Real food takes 4-5 hours to break down providing u more protein on demand.

I've always been under the impression that your body can only use so much protein at one time. IMHO drinking shakes at the same time as eating protein meals is a waste.

^^^^^^^^

[BigIce]

Hello,

For pct i will be taking liquid clomi, and novedex xt!

Novedex XT is crap IMO

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

You've been told by 007 to forget it, and work on your diet.
You countered, by claiming your diet is "spot on".
007 told you it was crap (to say it politely).

But its your body. You are 23 and have obviously hit your limits on the diet you have provided us. You'll prove 007 wrong, don't worry, you'll bloat up nicely and think you we're the man. But after the steroids, instead of losing some of your new gained mass you will lose it all because youre not eating enough to even grow now.

[jcosley]

That has to be one of the worst diets ive ever seen....

All you are doing is trying to do is replace your diet with aas...

I dunno why you would say that. I've seen a hell of alot worse. At least he is choosing the right foods. But yeah, still have to eat alot more then he is.

Novedex XT is crap IMO

Yup.