First week (Test, EQ) no gains !!

[D7M]

It's only the first week, man. You won't feel much besides placebo effect in the first week with a long ester.

But if you're 5'9 and 150lbs, you have bigger problems than possibly fake gear.

What's your diet like?

Honestly, the best advice I can give you is to discontinue the cycle now.

You need to learn how to eat/train to gain muscle before even thinking about AAS.

[oxkar777]

It's only the first week, man. You won't feel much besides placebo effect in the first week with a long ester.

But if you're 5'9 and 150lbs, you have bigger problems than possibly fake gear.

What's your diet like?

Honestly, the best advice I can give you is to discontinue the cycle now.

You need to learn how to eat/train to gain muscle before even thinking about AAS.

Well..i know that (about the diet and training) truly im have tried a lot lot lot lot lot lot...of things (i have 31 years old trying to gain weight after the 24 years).....(trust me i have talked with a lot of people (for example including the Muscle Nerd (i bought the Project X hardgainer..and nothing he refunded the money, i talked with him personally))..My story i was 138 pounds about 1 year ago..(in the University i was only 127 almost all time)...i always was veryyyyyy thin. Ok my story is really long, but for now this is some info..As i said before i had been for long years trying diferent routines, difenterent supplements, different diets...etc....so im a little desperate so i went to an endocrinologist. What he found was that i have the estrogen levels high (159 pg/ml of a maximum of 115) The doctor said is not too high for cause any problem...The second thing was that my Cortisol level are also high (25.22 ug/dl of a maximum of 22.40) also he said this is ok..(the test, the prolactin levels were in range).. he concluded that i had a ultra fast metabolism that i can eat and eat and eat and i will not gain muscle ...only a little fat in the belly (that is the conclusion of the Endocrinologist)...

So now..about four or five months ago..i found something interesting...(i always think that my problems are because of cortisol (as i used a lot of cortisoids before) (also i got overtrained so quickly)...so i used some herbs Relora, ashwanda,,, etc.. to control the cortisol levels...and guess what i gained over 4 pounds in less than one month (trust me a great surprise)..however i discontinued the herbs because they cause sleepness and a very low libido...So waht do you think about me...Im going to give you more info..like my specific diet, and workout, because trust me i really want help...bu im sure that im a lot different than anyone...

[CMB]

It's only the first week, man. You won't feel much besides placebo effect in the first week with a long ester.

But if you're 5'9 and 150lbs, you have bigger problems than possibly fake gear.

What's your diet like?

Honestly, the best advice I can give you is to discontinue the cycle now.

You need to learn how to eat/train to gain muscle before even thinking about AAS.

Agreed X 10000000000000000000000000

Learn to diet.

Don't say you know how to diet because you don't, seeing how you're 150lbs.

[oxkar777]

Well ok thats my diet..this was yesterday..

Morning (7am):

1 boiled egg, two slice of ham, two slice of integral bread, 1/2 serving of Up Your mass (300 cals + the other things thats about 600 cals)

9am :

1 Turkey sandwich (turkey, swiss chesse , letuce) probably about 400 cals

12pm:

White Rice, cooked ham (a really large portion), with potatoes, and salad.


3pm (pre wprkout shake):

1 full service of Real Mass (Gaspari) Thats about 700 cals with skim milk)


6pm (Post workout shake):

1 full service of Cyto Gainer (with water) about 600 cals


7pm:

1 Chicken breast sandwich


9:30 pm (before bed):

Protein shake (whey) with milk about 35 g of protein.


Also i inlcude some Glutamin and multivitamins, vitamin C, zinc, etc...No creatine, as it never worked for me...

Any advice? Or i need to eat more..about 1000 cals more? until i got death or i vomit? Thanks

[lovbyts]

Well ok thats my diet..this was yesterday..

Morning (7am):

1 boiled egg, two slice of ham, two slice of integral bread, 1/2 serving of Up Your mass (300 cals + the other things thats about 600 cals)

9am :

1 Turkey sandwich (turkey, swiss chesse , letuce) probably about 400 cals

12pm:

White Rice, cooked ham (a really large portion), with potatoes, and salad.


3pm (pre wprkout shake):

1 full service of Real Mass (Gaspari) Thats about 700 cals with skim milk)


6pm (Post workout shake):

1 full service of Cyto Gainer (with water) about 600 cals


7pm:

1 Chicken breast sandwich


9:30 pm (before bed):

Protein shake (whey) with milk about 35 g of protein.


Also i inlcude some Glutamin and multivitamins, vitamin C, zinc, etc...No creatine, as it never worked for me...

Any advice? Or i need to eat more..about 1000 cals more? until i got death or i vomit? Thanks

May I be the first one today to say

OMG let the FLAME begin. Sorry even though it is a flame free zone you are going to get burned. PLEASE tell us this is a joke?

And expecting gains in the first week? Im surprised you didnt expect them the first HOUR.... Im sure you will look like Arnold in 2 more week.

Age??? 14 going on?

You must have gotten that diet out of the back of a protein shake add. fvck me, 4 shakes a day? I think you need at least 6... LOL

Have you ever head of FOOD?????? Forget all the shakes. 1 a day is enough. Now learn to eat. Visit the diet section. example, Breakfast consist of 2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 1 cup whole oats with honey, bread optional... Now add at least 5 more meals NOT counting shakes...

[Blade15]

May I be the first one to day

OMG let the FLAME begin. Sorry even though it is a flame free zone you are going to get burned. PLEASE tell us this is a joke?

And expecting gains in the first week? Im surprised you didnt expect them the first HOUR.... Im sure you will look like Arnold in 2 more week.

Age??? 14 going on?

hey nice one lovbyts....

[Blade15]

Well ok thats my diet..this was yesterday..

Morning (7am):

1 boiled egg, two slice of ham, two slice of integral bread, 1/2 serving of Up Your mass (300 cals + the other things thats about 600 cals)

9am :

1 Turkey sandwich (turkey, swiss chesse , letuce) probably about 400 cals

12pm:

White Rice, cooked ham (a really large portion), with potatoes, and salad.


3pm (pre wprkout shake):

1 full service of Real Mass (Gaspari) Thats about 700 cals with skim milk)


6pm (Post workout shake):

1 full service of Cyto Gainer (with water) about 600 cals


7pm:

1 Chicken breast sandwich


9:30 pm (before bed):

Protein shake (whey) with milk about 35 g of protein.


Also i inlcude some Glutamin and multivitamins, vitamin C, zinc, etc...No creatine, as it never worked for me...

Any advice? Or i need to eat more..about 1000 cals more? until i got death or i vomit? Thanks

Wow toooo many shakes bro... try to eat solid food instead of these 2/3 shakes.. dont rely too much on supplements bro.. First try to fill your answersheet then stake supplement..(lol)