Snorting Test Base Powder

[schrodinger123]

Test base powder contains some 99% testosterone, and in the AAS world we use all sorts of delivery methods to keep our blood plasma levels of test and/or test-like molecules high. I've developed an interest in pure test lately (test with no ester - TNE) since this is the element that has the effects we desire.

Estrified test is nice from the standpoint of maintaining a sustained release of test over time, but you have to subtract the molecular weight of ester from the mg of estrified test you injected in order to know how many mg of test you actually got. With TNE, 100 mg is 100 mg. And its effective pretty much that day, not spread out over, say, 1 month like something like cypionate or worse yet decanoate.

I've experimented with homebrewing test suspension, but wanted to know if snorting test base powder would work. From what I understand, it is water soluable, or is it? For a substance to absorb through the nasal cavity, it must be water soluable. If not, it will simply get filtered out by your nasal cavity and will not absorb into the bloodstream.

1. Will test base powder absorb through the nasal passageway?

2. What are expected health risks/consequences?

3. Is this something you would have to do every day? Twice a day? More? Why?

Please be careful answering here and observe these rules of the board:

*** We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. if you continually post harrassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned.

*** Catagorically no discussion of Recreational Drugs of any kind for any reason.

This is not a discussion pertaining to recreational drugs, but there may be application to AAS. If you are a doctor/nurse/chemist/AAS fan and have some information helpful to this idea, or maybe know of a showstopper issue why it would never work, I would like to know about it. I think this is an interesting topic because if this works, then maybe there is another alternative to injections, oral, or testgel (absorbs through the skin).

I'm not suggesting that this would be for everyone, but some people may like the idea. For example, test gel never appealed to me, but some people afraid of needles and with liver problems may like it.

[bjpennnn]

i dont even know where to begin.

[dec11]

i dont even know where to begin.

i do, somewhere around the stupid mark............

[Big]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=433614

[schrodinger123]

Some people feel that something like this may sort of taboo or something. Actually, there is no law against snorting a powder.. But some folks agree with me that this may actually work. I'll protect his identity, but here is a PM I got on ths subject:

PM from ********:

It actually would work, but the problem is that you wouldn't have a sustained release. You'd get a huge hit of test, but it would be gone in a few hours at most. So you'd have to snort a tiny bit every few hours. With test base injections, the microcrystals crash in the muscle and actually provide a sustained release for several days. Its just that the majority of the test hits your bloodstream within maybe 6 hours (this all depends on how it is prepared and how fine the crystals are).

[big_ron]

get rid of this dude again!

[schrodinger123]

Here is another PM I got on the subject:

I think your question was valid. and everyone has this gross overreaction to a legit question. this board is filled with people who just like to be confrontational. no one answers anything. they ask you for stats and tell you what they think you are doing wrong without any consideration to the question at hand. it is like a god damn groundhog day in here.
I have not tried but I would guess that test base would be at least somewhat bioavailaible through the nasal cavities. it has to be atleast as bioavailable as a transdermal I would think- if not more. hell if it works I would do it. test base powder is cheap too.

[bjpennnn]

there are so many ****en idiots on tonight

[schrodinger123]

Talked to the mods on this one, and the response that I got is valid question, but you can't have a drug reference. So the drug reference is removed. Still a valid question. If you have some information pertaining to whether or not it would work, then I for one would like to hear it. Otherwise, see rule #4.

[dec11]

i smell a ban..............

[schrodinger123]

Rule #4: *** We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. if you continually post harrassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned.

If you have a technical reason, and can explain why this would not work, then post it and sure I'll leave it alone. Hell, if it makes sense and you want me to kill the thread, I will. But I want to know if it would or would not work, and if not, why?

[Big]

Rule #4: *** We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. if you continually post harrassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned.

If you have a technical reason, and can explain why this would not work, then post it and sure I'll leave it alone. Hell, if it makes sense and you want me to kill the thread, I will. But I want to know if it would or would not work, and if not, why?

fair enough, see post 5 in this thread.

[big_ron]

Why do you care???

[ScotchGuard]

Big, good info.

[schrodinger123]

So a handful of people jump up and say, 'I don't like that idea.' OK. Why? Is this based on something scientific, or just a personal bias? With all the fussing, I have not heard so much as even one plausible technical reason why it would not work.

The best answer I've heard against the idea was that it could potentially damage the nasal passageway. OK, sounds reasonable. To what extend do we expect this damage? How quickly might this occur, and how much would you have to ingest in this fashion for this to happen? Is there a pore size for this passageway, or does it work some other way? Etc., Etc.

Clearly a lot of people on this forum don't like the idea, but no one can articulate exactly why they feel this way or why it wouldn't work. I think the issue is that there is a negative connotations/perceptions associated that we cannot discuss on this forum. Still, for the sake of AAS, we should find out if it would work, and if not, why? As a technical person myself, I can't just write something off because it seems foolish or some people don't like the idea. If it did work it could save a lot of time, money, and hassles making injection preparations so its worth exploring IMHO... My apologies if you are offended...

[endus]

haha, no ban. Makes it so much more interesteing. I love drama

I used to snort something else when I was young - maybe more kids should do this instead of what I was doing at their age This is funny sh*t.

[Big]

again, the response in post 5 would seem to sum it up. since this seems very important to you, and apparently you aren't satisfied with that response, why not be a pioneer and run a cycle this way and keep a log? I would certainly follow it, as I'm sure others would.

[gixxerboy1]

who knows how it would effect your nasal passageways. It not that big of a deal to convert and inject. Not worth trying something new thats potentially dangerous to save a couple bucks

[gixxerboy1]

again, the response in post 5 would seem to sum it up. since this seems very important to you, and apparently you aren't satisfied with that response, why not be a pioneer and run a cycle this way and keep a log? I would certainly follow it, as I'm sure others would.

apparently he wants scientific data for something nobody does.

[schrodinger123]

I'm pretty sure that any estrified test, especially the longer esters are oil soluable so they won't dissolve in the nasal passageway. You can't do this with them. It would NEVER work. You would just waste your powder.

But test base is different because it may be water soluable. For sure we can suspend it in water, but I'm not sure that really means it has dissolved in the water. So that could present a problem right there... I'm just not sure, this is why I query the forum. I've got less than 2 years AAS experience, so I'm still learning.

In response to post #5, test has 2-4 hour half life. Means 1/2 of test is out of your bloodstream in 2-4 hours. 1/2 of 1/2 = 1/4 comes out in the next 2-4 hours. Then 1/8, 1/16 and so on. So if it does work, maybe you could ingest twice a day and keep high enough levels in your bloodstream? Again, I'm not the expert so I ask the forum.

Gentlemen, I did not re-post this to be a smartass or anything. From what I have read, there are some very smart dudes on this forum who are very scientific and methodical in their approach. They may know very good reasons why this should never be done, or that it may be an acceptable approach. Whatever the answers may be, I think I'm on the right forum to find the best answer...

[Big]

the way I look at it, test has been used for many, many years in the medical field for trt, yet they still inject it. good enough for me.

[ottomaddox]

You obviously have some kind of wierd facination with this topic. I couldn't even imagine the pain and the quantity and frequency that would make this such a ridiculous idea.

[big_ron]

just inject it man, thats all... jst inject it!!!! or swallow, you wont be able to find much info on this and thats the reason you are looking for it here, if no1 has done it, probably because its so stupid!!

[theorignalanimal]

this is what happens when you snort test..........

cant post image here it is tho

http://img471.imageshack.us/i/zzz6fk.jpg/

[darkcrayz]

Estrified test is nice from the standpoint of maintaining a sustained release of test over time, but you have to subtract the molecular weight of ester from the mg of estrified test you injected in order to know how many mg of test you actually got. With TNE, 100 mg is 100 mg. And its effective pretty much that day, not spread out over, say, 1 month like something like cypionate or worse yet decanoate.

if you already know you have to calculate the molecular weight why are you having an issue accepting it?

whats wrong with decanoate? people want it spread out over a month so they have to inject less, not more.

if you wanted a massive dose of test before something, powerlifting meet, etc, why not just run halo, dbol, cheque drops? why resort to something that could **** your shit up.

[50+]

Putting anything up your nose is going to do damage, end of story. It's just a matter of how long it will take.

[-Ender-]

quit feeding the Trolls

[dec11]

quit feeding the Trolls

exactly

[nilrac]

Silly topic...

I.M is hugely effective. Smarter people than us have already determined that, as BIG already said above.

[marcus300]

Use it for what it is intended for and it sure isnt intended for snorting is it you dick head.

Oh and stop flamming its against the rules,

[c-Z]

This post made me lol.....

i am looking forward to the log. Keep us posted mate... please PM me when you start your "snorting test log".

As to the guy who PMed you. He is probably just another newb who has taken no time to research as well. And wants to run a dbol deca cycle at 6'2 150lbs. Please step forward mr secret PMer.

Its reason like this steroids get a bad name. People doing stupid sh*t with it. No wonder US wont legalize it. We would have all these crack heads snorting steroids trying to get big. Speaking of crack heads.....

[gymnerd]

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[lovbyts]

Im guessing he has been banned or in trouble for something similar so he is trying to tread the line and cause controversy and use the rules (no flaming) on everyone else since it is what got him banned. It's just a guess......

[apmakeio-]

this is why steroids are illegal. if they end on the hands of people like this they can be dangerous for them and people around them.

[ScotchGuard]

When I cooked my own Test Prop I found that the Test Prop crystallized in the oil. Crystalline structures, like Test Prop, physically wears down the super thin nasal membranes. Take a look at the picture in post 24. Ok, the picture in post 24 is a little dramatic but you get the idea. Also, as Big says the whole reason we do deep muscle injection is so that the different esters can continue to allow the absorption of Test over time. When I dissolved Test Prop powder into the oil it took a while to dissolve. That's with heat being added to the mixture. That means that the Test Prop is not very soluble. If you snort Test Prop I don't think a lot of it will be absorbed through osmosis through the nasal membrane before you have to sneeze or blow your nose. Then again, I'm all about learning. You should try a cycle and track your results. You might be onto something and the rest of us are all naysayers. I'm curious to see if it will work for you.