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[Ronnie Rowland]

yeah i think it was me who asked ron about that once or twice injection thing, lol.. How was your dosing for accutane?

My first reload was pretty good even though i only use test 500mg/week, but i'm in week 7 now, and i feel crushed and so tired, and i'm not making any more significant gains, i think it could be because throughout this first phase, i've been experimenting with different kind of volumes, sometimes i went on the high end, and sometimes moderate, i have a feeling i could be reaching the point of overtraining.

After doing all those experimentation at the moment i feel that my body do best around 6-9 sets per body part per week, ronnie also told me last time that he think my body type prefers the lower range of volume.

I'm kinda in a dilemma right now, i dunno if continuing my reload to the end of the 8th week will be a productive thing to do, maybe i should just go straight to deload next week, or maybe prime instead since ronnie mentioned that if feeling burned out then its about time to prime to reset and fix everything up again.

At the moment i'm more inclined in either doing the deload or prime next week instead of continuing my reload phase till end of 8th week. I have feeling it would be a better strategy so that when starting my second phase i will be in a much better shape, and also by keeping my volumes around 6-9 sets during my second phase, i should be able to go all the way to the end of the 8th week without overtraining next time.warren branch only does 8 intense work sets for his mammoth chest. I know it's hard to believe but it's true. More is not always better! Smarter work is key!

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[Archangel.]

Great to see you back Ron! Hope all is well.

I asked you a Q on page 27, but I'll just repost it here, cause It's prob a pain in the ass playing catch up to all of our questions:

Hey Ron, good luck with your comp. Above in post #1059, you said this regarding PCT;

"If nolvadex is used stop hcg before using!"

I'm confused, as I thought the HCG, Nolva and Clomid of your recommended full PCT were all run CONCURRENTLY.

e.g. week 1-2 HCG
week 1-4 Nolva
week 1-4 Clomid

Or did you mean run the HCG for the first 2 weeks of PCT, THEN start the 4 weeks of Nolva/Clomid????

Can you please clarify this please?

Also, I'm still doing the slingshot carb-cycling, but I also just started my first deload, where as I know I'm to cut protein in half and replace with healthy carbs gram for gram. So would I still incorporate the 1 carb-up day/week I've been doing during the reload?

Also, my last test shot will fall on a wednesday, so when would I begin the HCG eod, and also the nolva ed. (I'm opting out of clomid)

Thank you SO much for everything, and I look forward to not only your answers, but also how well you did in the comp. Have a great day, Ron

p.s. Just thought you'd like to know, you were 100% right about the gyno symptoms/anti-e advice you gave me 2 months back, I didn't need the anti-e's AT ALL. I have absolutely ZERO side effects. If I had of listened to 99% of everyone else on this site I would have doubled the anti-e dosage I was taking, and still be running it. What a WASTE that would have been. Thanks again.

Also, I'm going off to work in the bush for a week, so there's NO way to work out there. This is right at the tie I'm supposed to begin my 2nd reload, SO should I just deload for one more week, making it a total of 3 weeks deloading, then hit up my reload when I return? Or what would you suggest? I just think it would be a waste to start reloading with 750mg test and not train properly, and I don't want to PCT yet, cause I'll be back in a week. Iwill however be doing some semi-intense work/cardio. I'm leaving tomorrow so I hope you see this soon, thanks

[Archangel.]

For all those that care, and as a testament to Ron's training techniques and advice, I am posting my 10 week before and after pics (halfway through 20 week blast) I utilaized Ron's carb-cycling approach during this time, and am 12 pounds heavier in the after pics and WAY stronger. Thanks for everything Ron, hope you like the pics

[50+]

For all those that care, and as a testament to Ron's training techniques and advice, I am posting my 10 week before and after pics (halfway through 20 week blast) I utilaized Ron's carb-cycling approach during this time, and am 12 pounds heavier in the after pics and WAY stronger. Thanks for everything Ron, hope you like the pics

Nice progress!! I'm on my 5th week and my progress is similar to yours. After 30 years of training I've made my best gains ever with Ronnies training method. This is my 1st cycle also, I've always trained natural but I still had a decent base to start with. I wish I had taken some before pics but even without them the difference is very noticeable to me and everybody that knows me. My son keeps saying to me, damn, it looks like you've been taking roids. LOL I've told no one what I'm up to.

[Archangel.]

Nice progress!! I'm on my 5th week and my progress is similar to yours. After 30 years of training I've made my best gains ever with Ronnies training method. This is my 1st cycle also, I've always trained natural but I still had a decent base to start with. I wish I had taken some before pics but even without them the difference is very noticeable to me and everybody that knows me. My son keeps saying to me, damn, it looks like you've been taking roids. LOL I've told no one what I'm up to.

Thanks for the compliment 50. I've trained natural for 12 years before my first cycle (this one). It's a nice feeling having others notice your progress, so I know how you feel. Congrats to you too, bud.

[Ronnie Rowland]

For all those that care, and as a testament to Ron's training techniques and advice, I am posting my 10 week before and after pics (halfway through 20 week blast) I utilaized Ron's carb-cycling approach during this time, and am 12 pounds heavier in the after pics and WAY stronger. Thanks for everything Ron, hope you like the pics

Honestly, you don't even look like the same person. You can brag on yourself now. Just don't get the bighead..lol

[Archangel.]

Honestly, you don't even look like the same person. You can brag on yourself now. Just don't get the bighead..lol

Thank you so much for the huge compliment, it means a lot coming from you. I can't tell you how greatful I am for all of your great advice. I used to have a body like I have now in the pics I posted back when I was 19 years old, only I was 35 pounds lighter with the same build lol. I took my metabolism for granted back then and struggled to get back to this condition for the past 3 years or so. It wasn't until you guided me with your carb-cycling diet that I went from that before pic to the after pics in as little as 10 weeks. EVERYBODY at the gym notices big time. My gf is so impressed too. Thank you very much for everything Ron

[chrisx]

For all those that care, and as a testament to Ron's training techniques and advice, I am posting my 10 week before and after pics (halfway through 20 week blast) I utilaized Ron's carb-cycling approach during this time, and am 12 pounds heavier in the after pics and WAY stronger. Thanks for everything Ron, hope you like the pics

Damn Arch congrats on your newfound mass! Which cycle did you run and was it your first? I will be starting my first soon and am a litlle nervous about getting started it's good to see what I can look forward to if I do things right. Again bro good job

[Archangel.]

Damn Arch congrats on your newfound mass! Which cycle did you run and was it your first? I will be starting my first soon and am a litlle nervous about getting started it's good to see what I can look forward to if I do things right. Again bro good job

Thanks chris, I worked really hard for it. This was my first cycle, and for the first 8 week reload I ran test-e @ 500mg/week, then 2 week deload @ 250mg/week.
As for my back routine, it looks like this:

Rack pulls: 1 set / 1 rep
1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 12-15 reps

Pulldowns: 1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 10-12 reps

Machine Rows: 1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 10-12 reps

Good luck on your first cycle!

[chrisx]

Thanks chris, I worked really hard for it. This was my first cycle, and for the first 8 week reload I ran test-e @ 500mg/week, then 2 week deload @ 250mg/week.
As for my back routine, it looks like this:

Rack pulls: 1 set / 1 rep
1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 12-15 reps

Pulldowns: 1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 10-12 reps

Machine Rows: 1 set / 4-6 reps
1 set / 8-10 reps
1 set / 10-12 reps

Good luck on your first cycle!

You use the rack pull instead of dead lift? They pretty much work the same don't they?

[Archangel.]

You use the rack pull instead of dead lift? They pretty much work the same don't they?

Pretty much, but the rack pull saves on your knees. I only started doing them as a means to help increase my deadlift, but I really got to like them. I will be starting sumo deads for my next reload

[Coca Cola]

For all those that care, and as a testament to Ron's training techniques and advice, I am posting my 10 week before and after pics (halfway through 20 week blast) I utilaized Ron's carb-cycling approach during this time, and am 12 pounds heavier in the after pics and WAY stronger. Thanks for everything Ron, hope you like the pics

Thats an awesome progress!

[Archangel.]

Thats an awesome progress!

Thanks Cola!

[Ronnie Rowland]

great to see you back ron! Hope all is well.

I asked you a q on page 27, but i'll just repost it here, cause it's prob a pain in the ass playing catch up to all of our questions:

Hey ron, good luck with your comp. Above in post #1059, you said this regarding pct;

"if nolvadex is used stop hcg before using!"

i'm confused, as i thought the hcg, nolva and clomid of your recommended full pct were all run concurrently. (that was a mis rint due to me being low on glycogen levels for my show. Nolva and hcg are always ran together if in fact nolva is used with HCG!!!! I'm not feeling too good so i'm throwing in the towel right here for today.)

e.g. Week 1-2 hcg
week 1-4 nolva
week 1-4 clomid

or did you mean run the hcg for the first 2 weeks of pct, then start the 4 weeks of nolva/clomid????

Can you please clarify this please?

Also, i'm still doing the slingshot carb-cycling, but i also just started my first deload, where as i know i'm to cut protein in half and replace with healthy carbs gram for gram. So would i still incorporate the 1 carb-up day/week i've been doing during the reload? Not necessarily but I feel its a good idea.

Also, my last test shot will fall on a wednesday, so when would i begin the hcg eod, and also the nolva ed. (i'm opting out of clomid)wait about 1 week is fine.
thank you so much for everything, and i look forward to not only your answers, but also how well you did in the comp. Have a great day, ron

p.s. Just thought you'd like to know, you were 100% right about the gyno symptoms/anti-e advice you gave me 2 months back, i didn't need the anti-e's at all. I have absolutely zero side effects. If i had of listened to 99% of everyone else on this site i would have doubled the anti-e dosage i was taking, and still be running it. What a waste that would have been. Thanks again. And that's not because I am smarter than anyone else on this board its because I have a lot more real life experience than most. 25 years worth to be exact!

Also, i'm going off to work in the bush for a week, so there's no way to work out there. This is right at the tie i'm supposed to begin my 2nd reload, so should i just deload for one more week, making it a total of 3 weeks deloading, then hit up my reload when i return? Or what would you suggest? I just think it would be a waste to start reloading with 750mg test and not train properly, and i don't want to pct yet, cause i'll be back in a week. Iwill however be doing some semi-intense work/cardio. I'm leaving tomorrow so i hope you see this soon, thanks You can wait or go ahead and do a 3 cc shot of test before you leave for the bush as you call it and by the time you get back you'll be gun ho and test will be surging.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Guys we are beating a dead horse with all the PCT questions. I think I have answered about all that can be said on that particular topic. So please, let's move on to bigger and better things.

I don't mean to be rude but I'm getting burned out with it and it's beginning to be a huge waste of time. So, let's stick to discussing things of more substance okay.

THANK YOU!