Off Cyp, and onto HCG

[Vettester]

Sorry dude, 202 sucks!

This protocol concerns me. That's plenty enough HCG, and going higher will only increase your chances to desensitize the leydig cells (if this area isn't damaged already).

Did your doctor check your LH score prior to putting you TRT?

[TrennK]

Sorry dude, 202 sucks!

This protocol concerns me. That's plenty enough HCG, and going higher will only increase your chances to desensitize the leydig cells (if this area isn't damaged already).

Did your doctor check your LH score prior to putting you TRT?

Not this time, but i know he did once I switched 5 weeks ago, and it was fine he said, i will have to check my paperwork and see if the LH lvls are listed there. as far as TRT, ive been on it @ 200mg cyp week for last 5 yrs.

[Vettester]

Not this time, but i know he did once I switched 5 weeks ago, and it was fine he said, i will have to check my paperwork and see if the LH lvls are listed there. as far as TRT, ive been on it @ 200mg cyp week for last 5 yrs.

If the LH levels were fine then I don't quite understand his objective for all the HCG. It almost sounds like you're desensitized.

With 2000iu of HCG you should have seen some sort of increase. Is this the only time you've taken HCG during the 5 years of TRT?

[TrennK]

If the LH levels were fine then I don't quite understand his objective for all the HCG. It almost sounds like you're desensitized.

With 2000iu of HCG you should have seen some sort of increase. Is this the only time you've taken HCG during the 5 years of TRT?

Yes, this is the first time i have ever taken HCG. The idea is to get T-lvls in 600-700range, while not shutting my nad's off, cause I plan on having children in the next 2 yrs.

SO, while on the Cyp, i was shut down hard, and I didnt like that, So he switched me to the HCG 5 weeks ago, to get my levels up, and keep me running. Which is really what I wanted. I didnt like Having junk the size of peas,

The boys have grown almost back to were they were b4 I started TRT 5yrs ago. It took like 3-4mnths b4 I really noticed them srinking, by a yr, they were gone,

[Vettester]

It's great that they're growing ... The concern is that they're not generating any Testosterone, or very little to speak of. Maybe it just takes time ... I dunno. Hoping your doctor will be the one that knows. I just know that my "T" score would be well above 700 if I did anything close to what you were doing.

[TrennK]

It's great that they're growing ... The concern is that they're not generating any Testosterone, or very little to speak of. Maybe it just takes time ... I dunno. Hoping your doctor will be the one that knows. I just know that my "T" score would be well above 700 if I did anything close to what you were doing.

The 202 lvl was on the day of my next shot. He did BW b4 i took the shot to see what my low was. Next BW will be on day of shot, just after I take it to see what my high is. Worse case, i can use these numbers to convince him to maybe do like 1-2kui a week, with the 200mg Cyp. I dont think the high HCG dose is going to be long term, maybe like 18-24mnths, just to get my gear working again and stable, so i can go back to the Cyp TRT for the long term, maybe adding low dose of hcg. Everything is still pending on what the numbers say.

[TrennK]

It's great that they're growing ... The concern is that they're not generating any Testosterone, or very little to speak of. Maybe it just takes time ... I dunno. Hoping your doctor will be the one that knows. I just know that my "T" score would be well above 700 if I did anything close to what you were doing.

It might be cause Im using APP, but he Just switched me today to Novarel. Everything Ive read says App is bunk. Guess we will see, next month or so.

*OT- I know this might sound newb'ish, but ive been away from BB and forms for last few yrs (gotten utterly Lazy) but, I dont recall, if down the road I add winny Inj 50mg EOD, if it will increase my T-lvls? while on TRT with either the Cyp, or the HCG?