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    Hey man probably best to ask one of the vets who have a lot of theoretical knowledge & practical experience like swifto, Marcus or big. I know a lot of people dose close to double the amount for the first couple of weeks to kick the hpta back into action, but clomid raises test more than nolva & torem at 25mg in a short space of time, I couldn't see the point in exposing myself to higher doses of 'toxic' serms, when clomid works so quickly and efficiently at low
    doses. I think clomid is an important addition in pct, albeit not in ridiculous doses because of it's quick effect on hpta. I guess what I'm trying to say is I can't personally see any advantage in frontloading serms as long as clomid is in pct due to how fast it acts and it's effects at 25mg. For next cycle I'm goin try out torem at 60mg ed, along with my clomid at 25mg and hcg on cycle. See how the torem goes. Shit mate I went on a bit of a tangent when your question was about front-loading based on half-life calculations better off shooting the vets a pm and running it passed em for best advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezza6969 View Post
    Hey man probably best to ask one of the vets who have a lot of theoretical knowledge & practical experience like swifto, Marcus or big. I know a lot of people dose close to double the amount for the first couple of weeks to kick the hpta back into action, but clomid raises test more than nolva & torem at 25mg in a short space of time, I couldn't see the point in exposing myself to higher doses of 'toxic' serms, when clomid works so quickly and efficiently at low
    doses. I think clomid is an important addition in pct, albeit not in ridiculous doses because of it's quick effect on hpta. I guess what I'm trying to say is I can't personally see any advantage in frontloading serms as long as clomid is in pct due to how fast it acts and it's effects at 25mg. For next cycle I'm goin try out torem at 60mg ed, along with my clomid at 25mg and hcg on cycle. See how the torem goes. Shit mate I went on a bit of a tangent when your question was about front-loading based on half-life calculations better off shooting the vets a pm and running it passed em for best advice
    ha no worries bro, I know what you mean

    Im def gonna try out torm in the near future

    just recently bought 1200mg of tamoxifen

    so it ill do me for 2 cycles

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