I JUST WENT BACK AND POSTED THIS IN CAPS - SORRY IF YOU'VE SAID WHAT I JUST SAID. I WROTE SO FRIGGIN LONG AS USUAL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE POSTED 4-5 MORE BEFORE I FINISHED, LOL. I WILL NOW LIMIT MY POSTS GREATLY FROM THIS POINT ONWARD.
I think NotSmall has about the ONLY sure fire method in motion. I've mentioned these two tests many times from researching them and speaking to rnmacgrun. The liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry. Then Mr. Rose posted yet another test that threw a curve ball in the pic.Originally Posted by AndriodLee
There are some things to consider "AndroidLee" - It has been mentioned that there is HGH commonly being "faked" with IGF-1 and quite possibly additional filler(s) that cause sides similar to hgh. I would imagine if you ran an IGF-1 blood test, it WOULD read high if you have a fake containing IGF-1
However, if you blood test, will you:
A: test inside 10-60 minutes of pinning (the ranges I've seen from posts)
B: Will you pin intramuscular that day (as many say is necessary for testing)
C: Do you have a BASELINE IGF-1 level (as to compare your results with)
I've viewed other results like the following (who DID have baseline levels checked before running the IGF-1 test "under the influence"
Subject 1: Baseline 284 - IGF-1
after pinning 4iu (appx 30 minutes prior) results: 398
Subject 2: Baseline 118
I think he tested hours later but results from 2iu showed a raise to only 252 (These results are from my memory and could be off + or - a very small amount. I will have to call my friends again to verify.
These guys were using Yellow Tops bought with me through China.
I don't have a baseline as I didn't know to test my IGF-1 before using HGH. So I wouldn't know how much of an increase there was. But sitting at over 400ng/ml on 4iu in my early 40's and going from 258lbs to 230ish starting after 2 1/2 months on (diet stayed the same) makes me believe somewhat that I've got the real deal.
All in all. After reading till my eyes go blurry (as yours will if you read all my friggin blabbing) and conversing with some folk in the med field, I believe it is VERY difficult to draw conclusions from blood work as there seem to be so many variables. If I sound contradictory within my OWN long post, my apologies as it's just the UNCERTAINTIES. Our HGH levels seem to be all over the map during a 24hr period anyway. IGF-1 is produced by the liver as a bi-product of HGH. There are definitely other factors that change these levels.
And WHAT IS THE HGH TEST that is separate of IGF-1 Testing? What is that measuring? Why hasn't everyone used that instead of IGF-1 testing? Why has the 2 labs I've asked about the actual HGH TEST not been able to tell me what the difference was from that to the IGF-1 test? Crappy customer service reps?
BOTOM LINE FOR ME: Notsmall might be about to uncover the truth here -Conclusively! (money permitting). And I have been notified of a lab via rnmacgurn that may test for less than $195 (U.S.) in part due to his med/company privileges.
I have also found after calling many labs that they immediately shut me down when I asked for these tests to verify my steroids. They told me they won't test controlled substances for a private individual. But they didn't have a problem with HGH - Sorry for my ignorance, but is HGH NOT a controlled substance?
Please be tolerant with long winded posts - I will pay back in kind with PDF's of ACTUAL LAB TESTING *Mass Spectrometry and/or Liquid Chromatography.
And afterwards. I WILL post the cost, the name, address and phone number(s) to the lab I used for all those wanting to test THEIR suspicious little 10iu bottles
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