NPP vs TrenA

[Neevor]

Currently using NPP for the first time and Im really liking the way Im coming along after 5 weeks. Check my latest pic to show gains. Tren is great, but I think NPP will be included in most of my cycles from now on.

So what Im hearing here is that you like the NPP more than the Tren? Care to expand on why? Thanks!

[Knockout_Power]

So what Im hearing here is that you like the NPP more than the Tren? Care to expand on why? Thanks!

This is my first run with NPP and I have ran Tren A before. I really enjoyed the Tren A as it added mass and cut me up while on a calroie deficient diet... awesome stuff... but If you are looking for a great bulking cycle, I would probably run the NPP as it produces a lot less sides but you feel great on it... this may sound contraditory to what Im saying, but here is my current cycle:

1-12 Sust 600/wk
1-9 NPP 450/wk
1-10 Tren E 450/wk

This is effectively my first true "bulking" cycle, I cycled before for different reason.

If you want to run tren to bulk, I would run Tren E in a longer cycle... tren A is great for a quick 8 weeks cutter where you can add a couple extra quality lbs while cutting.

[Neevor]

This is effectively my first true "bulking" cycle, I cycled before for different reason.

If you want to run tren to bulk, I would run Tren E in a longer cycle... tren A is great for a quick 8 weeks cutter where you can add a couple extra quality lbs while cutting.

No I don't like the water retention with longer estered stuff and I like being able to end my cycle basically the day I want to and be back to myself.

For example I ended my last cycle of tren, prop, and mast this weekend and started PCT. Monday and Tuesday I could only muster 1 performance for my girl but last night we stayed up and I hammered her out 6 times. Back to my old self in 4 days. Can't beat that.

I don't have a problem w ED injections for all the benefits of the short esters. I probably will never run a long estered compound again unless anyone can prove to me there's a reason to other than less frequent injections. Any particular reason you are recomending Tren E for a bulking cycle other than that's what everyone always assumes you should do?

Also, I've run a 14 week cycle, a couple 12s, a 10 and an 8 weeker and honestly I am also coming to find that I prefer the 8 to 10 weeks because I plateau around week 8 and the gains are not as much for the extra work I have to invest in my PCT.

PS I ran Sust for 4 weeks once in a cycle and switched to Enth cause I needed to be injecting EOD to keep my plasma levels from fluxuating all over the place. I hate that stuff. All the drawbacks of long estered stuff with increased injection requirements.

[Knockout_Power]

Any particular reason you are recomending Tren E for a bulking cycle other than that's what everyone always assumes you should do?

I dont like high dosages so if Im looking to add mass I want to do it consistantly over 10-12 weeks... when I ran Tren A it was only at 350/wk.

Its my personal preference to not put on huge amounts of weight within just a few weeks cause it is very difficult on your body to adjust to having to carry, fuel and for your heart, feed blood to all that extra mass. A couple extra weeks eases the transition... but then again, Ive never put on 30-40lbs on a cycle, I never use orals to kick start....

Personal experience will tell you what works best for you... I would definately suggest trying NPP to know how your react to it. You may find it better or less effective than tren and then you can adjust future cycling

[Neevor]

Its my personal preference to not put on huge amounts of weight within just a few weeks cause it is very difficult on your body to adjust to having to carry, fuel and for your heart, feed blood to all that extra mass. A couple extra weeks eases the transition... but then again, Ive never put on 30-40lbs on a cycle, I never use orals to kick start...

Most I ever added in a cycle was 25lbs (second cycle) but it was a few years ago and I didnt have a great understanding of how to train and eat during PCT and I lost about half of it after. This will be my first big mass cycle since I have really come to understand all the aspects of cycling (including PCT and gains retention).

In any case, this is an interesting point of view that I had not thought of before. I'm gonna need to think more on this. Thanks KP.