2nd Cycle Critique If You Like !!!!

[dec11]

pinning deca and test c ed is just stupid, waste of pins and completely unnessecary

[alphadog]

pinning deca and test c ed is just stupid, waste of pins and completely unnessecary

look at this buddy

Heres what test E looks like. Since test e and c are pretty similar, they would look near the same. Dose is 700mg/week. Again the graphs will look the same at 500mg/week or any other dose.

[dec11]

look at this buddy

yeah on paper, but you will not feel this physically mate, its too minute to notice

[Vitruvian-Man]

pinning deca and test c ed is just stupid, waste of pins and completely unnessecary

.... Not sooo much.

For anyone who cares about optimal concentrations, it's actually an ideal protocol.

I give props to the OP for following it. So many guys nowadays opt for the weekly or bi-weekly injection route.

OP, what are the injection sites (8) that you're going to rotate?

Can you answer my question about why not make this is a lean bulker and take advantage of short esters...?

-VM

[alphadog]

.... Not sooo much.

For anyone who cares about optimal concentrations, it's actually an ideal protocol.

I give props to the OP for following it. So many guys nowadays opt for the weekly or bi-weekly injection route.

OP, what are the injection sites (8) that you're going to rotate?

Can you answer my question about why not make this is a lean bulker and take advantage of short esters...?

-VM

My injection sites are left glute, right glute, left quad, right quad, left delt, right delt, left tri, right tri... And am interested in pinning in more spots to try it out haha

The only reason I'm not going with prop again is because cyp is cheaper basically.. And for a bulk the longer tests are known for more water retention which may help in heavy lifts

[Vitruvian-Man]

My injection sites are left glute, right glute, left quad, right quad, left delt, right delt, left tri, right tri... And am interested in pinning in more spots to try it out haha

The only reason I'm not going with prop again is because cyp is cheaper basically.. And for a bulk the longer tests are known for more water retention which may help in heavy lifts

Nice... you could look into incorporating the pecs into the mix. It's an excellent site IMO.

Biceps down the road too. I wouldn't bother trying calves.. It's not worth it.

Good luck.

-VM

[dec11]

.... Not sooo much.

For anyone who cares about optimal concentrations, it's actually an ideal protocol.

I give props to the OP for following it. So many guys nowadays opt for the weekly or bi-weekly injection route.

OP, what are the injection sites (8) that you're going to rotate?

Can you answer my question about why not make this is a lean bulker and take advantage of short esters...?

-VM

can you tell me that it makes any clear difference then? it wont and you know it

[Vitruvian-Man]

can you tell me that it makes any clear difference then? it wont and you know it

Bro... the OP's goal from the get-go was to run a cycle, and in the progress keep his blood-levels stable as possible.

Will he notice it? Perhaps not.

Will it provide better gains? Perhaps not/Probably not.

Will it provide optimal blood-levels? YES.

You're calling it stupid because it's so much more pinning then most people would worth doing. Most would just opt to be shooting short esters each today.

However, that said, if one wants to keep their body's hormonal balance most stable while on AAS, then they need to inject each day.

So to answer you question, "will it make a clear difference." Yes. Absolutely.

-VM

[dec11]

Bro... the OP's goal from the get-go was to run a cycle, and in the progress keep his blood-levels stable as possible.

Will he notice it? Perhaps not.

Will it provide better gains? Perhaps not/Probably not.

Will it provide optimal blood-levels? YES.

You're calling it stupid because it's so much more pinning then most people would worth doing. Most would just opt to be shooting short esters each today.

However, that said, if one wants to keep their body's hormonal balance most stable while on AAS, then they need to inject each day.

So to answer you question, "will it make a clear difference." Yes. Absolutely.

-VM

no it wont lol, what do you think long esters are for then? mount up the tiny bit left in the syringes after pinning, on evday injects thats gona come to quite an amount wasted, good reason for not running an unnessecary pinning schedule whenever x2 a week will suffice perfectly

[Vitruvian-Man]

no it wont lol, what do you think long esters are for then? mount up the tiny bit left in the syringes after pinning, on evday injects thats gona come to quite an amount wasted, good reason for not running an unnessecary pinning schedule whenever x2 a week will suffice perfectly

I won't even waste my time refuting this point.

Clearly you haven't read anything in this thread; or perhaps just haven't been able to digest any of the info since it all directly contradicts your statements.

Do whatever the hell you want man. If you think it's better to shoot E3.5D, then go for it. That said, you clearly you do not understand optimal blood-concentrations.

Your statements make absolutely no sense, but perhaps it is the vast amount of grammatical errors in your post that I'm having problems comprehending.

If you don't remember, I said "by shooting long esters each day it will produce the most stable blood-levels...???? You refuted the point by saying it's unnecessary pinning and a waste of oil. Needless to say, your arguments hold no value in regards to STABLE BLOOD LEVELS.

OH, and also, "quite an amount wasted?" you're talking about 0.1mL. If you're seriously that ridiculously cheap about your oil, well... I don't even know. That's just weird.

Cut it with some sterile oil, problem solved.

-VM

[alphadog]

Bromo ???? Proviron ????