prop + tren ace cycle to start in 90 days

[boDAWG]

If you can not exhaust those muscles in 3-5 exercises during training then IMO you gotta keep up the intensity. More is not always better in training. Being smarter is. IMO Id suggest to do one exercise per angle in chest. No need for 2-3 incline exercises or decline or flat presses.

15-20lbs of lean body mass in 8 weeks is not realistic. Gaining 15-20lbs total is though. Water, fat, etc, is not LBM. If you continue on in the process of learning about exercise, the human body, etc you'll understand why. Bro knowledge is one thing, science is another.

I just caught the pic in your post, Id personally would say with the current amount of muscle you hold to postpone tren for later. Much later. Weight is one thing but if you were to get your bodyfat tested accurately and then calculated your actually lean body mass you may find in isn't as much as you once thought. Happens to most first time competitive bodybuilders when they begin to diet down. When they start around 230-240 and when in shape they weigh around 170-180. Id think you personally fit this bill Take everything I say simply as a critique.

I think a simply test only cycle is what is needed, hold on the tren. Try dbol, deca, eq, winny, and other compounds out first before reaching straight for the MOST POWERFUL INJECTABLE THERE IS.

Utilize your stronger compounds for later if working out is something that will be a long term goal.

What is your overall goal? Do you have a physique goal or strength goals. It can take several years to achieve certain goals, not weeks, months or 1-2 years. But if you listen to the right people, continue to learn as much as possible about the way to diet and train right you'll be on your way.

Once again bro thanks for the great advice, this is exactly why i posted here and yeah im 225ish right now at 15% bf which means im carrying about 190ish lbs of muscle on me right now. For now i guess ill just switch up the routine and maybe give test e or c a thought for 12 weeks instead of the original test p and tren cycle, or i might hold off on a cycle for another year or so all together, im just gonna keep training hard for the next few months and see where it takes me and keep learning and thinking in the meanwhile.

Thanks for the advice bro

[Mar-Vell]

Once again bro thanks for the great advice, this is exactly why i posted here and yeah im 225ish right now at 15% bf which means im carrying about 190ish lbs of muscle on me right now. For now i guess ill just switch up the routine and maybe give test e or c a thought for 12 weeks instead of the original test p and tren cycle, or i might hold off on a cycle for another year or so all together, im just gonna keep training hard for the next few months and see where it takes me and keep learning and thinking in the meanwhile.

Thanks for the advice bro

This is not true, see you have 190lbs of muscle, bones, blood, organs, etc... all this number says is that you have 35lbs of fat, but nobody can say how many pounds of muscle you have
Anyway, i agree with the pal who said youre doing too much cardio, with just the tren and a clean diet you can get lean and gain almost all the pounds you said you want, see you have 15%bf but you are almost lean already, exceed the cardio and the quality weight will come too slowly
PS: im one of those 170lbs guys you said, hope you dont mind

[boDAWG]

This is not true, see you have 190lbs of muscle, bones, blood, organs, etc... all this number says is that you have 35lbs of fat, but nobody can say how many pounds of muscle you have
Anyway, i agree with the pal who said youre doing too much cardio, with just the tren and a clean diet you can get lean and gain almost all the pounds you said you want, see you have 15%bf but you are almost lean already, exceed the cardio and the quality weight will come too slowly
PS: im one of those 170lbs guys you said, hope you dont mind

YEAH, i understand the 190lbs of organs bones and all that, but did you just recommend me that i do a tren only cycle? Because that will not be happening ever.

Also im doing cardio but the cardio is low intensity, and i am doing so much cardio because i don't want the slightest risk of putting on any more fat even if it takes me a lot longer to put on that mass ill take my time cuz i understand nothing comes overnight and i want quality LBM gains